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Re: Comment on DMCA, Security, and Vuln Reporting


From: Stephen Samuel <samuel () bcgreen com>
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:58:25 -0700

If something like this HP attack on security research actually flies
in court, then I think there is a very good chance that it can be killed
on the basis of the first amendment.

To play with the analogy used in one supreme court decision on the first
amendment:

   This law makes it illegal to stand up and yell "fire" in a crowded theatre--
   but only if there really is a fire.

Richard Forno wrote:
Given the recent news about HP using DMCA to shutter a Bugtraq disclosure of
Tru64 vulnerability, I felt it appropriate to chime in. I hope you find my
comments of-value and worthy of relaying onto the list.
.....
The way we're going, thanks to HP's legal geniuses, we may as well call
NIST, NSA, SANS, and IETF to rewrite a new 'industry standard' definition
for 'computer security' that places the vendor's profit and public image
above the confidentiality, integrity, and availability of end-user data and
systems. For all intents and purposes, Congress has already done that with
DMCA and Berman's proposed "Hollywood Hacking" Bill -- they just forgot to
inform (or seek counsel from) those of us working in the real information
security community.

Bleeping idiots. Congress and Corporate America. When it comes to technology
policy, neither has the first clue . No wonder we're in the state we're in.


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