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Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.)
From: "Stanley G. Bubrouski" <stan () ccs neu edu>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 20:27:01 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Markus Kern wrote:
"Alexander Sarras (SEA)" wrote:-----Original Message----- From: Meritt James [mailto:meritt_james () bah com] Clever tool with immoral, unethical and possibly illegal use.Never mind that last point, I'd be more concerned with the first two. And, *anybody* who want's to sneak a worm into my systems (no matter what the intentions are) gets me really pissed off. That probably holds true for a lot of people.I absolutely understand your concerns. Personally I wouldn't want anyone else to execute code on my machines either but a patch has been available for months now. Every admin who cares about her systems has already fixed them ( I'm aware that it may be difficult to apply patches in some cases because they might break other stuff but after over two months such problems should be solved). The others who didn't care about Code Red are very likely not to care about Code Green / CRclean either, yet they're still causing problems for the community.
It's not about "well if he doesn't patch his system he doesn't care," that is just ignorant. Do you think the people at Microsoft/MSN didn't care when they were infected because they didn't install a patch released months before? That is absurd. Do you think people with infected machines on the internet even know they are infected? Probably not. Do you think they'd be overjoyed to hear they were infected with another worm to remove the first? Probably not. Will this stop other people like you from doing similar things? Probably not? Do you care about the dataloss a worm that reboots machines without an admins permission causes? Apparently not.
regards, Markus Kern
Regards, Stan -- Stan Bubrouski stan () ccs neu edu 23 Westmoreland Road, Hingham, MA 02043 Cell: (617) 835-3284
Current thread:
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.), (continued)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Meritt James (Sep 07)
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- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) .MetsyS. (Sep 06)
- AW: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Steinhart Alexander (Sep 05)
- Re: AW: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Markus Kern (Sep 06)
- Re: AW: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Patrick Patterson (Sep 07)
- RE: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) t. patrick o'hara (Sep 06)
- RE: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Ivan Dimitrov (Sep 06)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) abel (Sep 06)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Markus Kern (Sep 06)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Stanley G. Bubrouski (Sep 06)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) S (Sep 06)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Markus Kern (Sep 07)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) H D Moore (Sep 07)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Markus Kern (Sep 07)
- Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Stanley G. Bubrouski (Sep 07)
- coding (was: Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Meritt James (Sep 06)
- Re: coding (was: Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) sa7ori (Sep 06)
- Re: coding (was: Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) Meritt James (Sep 07)
- RE: coding (was: Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.) David Schwartz (Sep 07)