Re: Windows file problem

[Simple Nomad <thegnome () NMRC ORG>]

It works on NT because of NTFS. The "problem" is NTFS streams. These have
been known and around for a while. They're talked about in Hacking
Exposed, and I believe sysinternals.com or someplace like that has a
utility to find them.

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 poepping () LOGICAL CM NU wrote:

>       I don't know if this is a hole, or the file is going somewhere
> else, but here is what I found.
>
> create a directory i.e c:\tempfolder
>
> go into the folder and type dir (its empty)
>
> now type  echo junk >> :myfile
>
> type dir again (its still empty)
>
> now find a copy of vi.exe for windows (its all I can find that can read
> and write these files)  once you get vi.exe  type vi :myfile  and presto
> it loads the file, with the conent of "junk" you wrote to it.
>
> next type start .  and you can see that windows explorer can't see it.
>
> and if you try to delete the file it doesn't work.
>
> So if someone wanted to, they could log onto a server/workstation and
> create a file that fills up the harddrive (assuming that it takes up
> space, haven't tried), And no one would see it, or be able to delete it.
>
>
> Am I mising something? or is this just a flaw in windows (tested on
> windows nt 4.0 doesn't seem to work on windows 98, but need to try
> creating the file with vi.exe)
>
>
>
> thanks,
> matt
> poepping () ksni net