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Re: New worm?


From: thierry () WAATLEEFT LU (Thierry Zoller)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:04:28 +0200


Dimitry Andric wrote:

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On 2000-05-11 at 10:57 Dan Schrader wrote:

A number of ISPs (US West, Sprint, British Telecom to name a few)
are now offering virus scanning as a value added service.  This
allows them to differentiate themselves and generate added revenues.
Users seem to like the feature.

I can understand that users like to feel safe and cosy, and are ready
to pay for it, but how can you offer any guarantee that these users
will not be affected by the latest permutation of, say, LoveLetter.*
?  It is impossible to detect new viruses which are not yet in your
database, and heuristics will of course only work to a limited
extent.


Nope it's not impossible, proof
http://www.tlsecurity.net/cleaner/scriptguard.htm
This is a _Generic_ Script Protector, it get's all variants of Loveletter
and (probably) all coming vbs,hta worms as it does NOT rely on
Fingerprints.
Heuristics work pretty good for VBS scripts as the supposed "malicious"
commands are static.
Perhaps one could code an algorithm obscuring the commands and thus
escaping Scriptguard, but this has not been made (yet)

Thierry Zoller


So if you offer a guarantee, then you might be sued by users who
become infected even after using your scanning service. On the other
hand, if you don't offer any guarantee, what is your scanner service
worth then? To me, it would then seem of no use at all, except for
draining customer's pockets.

Cheers,
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Dimitry Andric <dim () xs4all nl>
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