Re: v2.8.4 incorrect logging to MySQL

[Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>]

Marty,

Do you mean open source as in GPL or equivalent or as in we can all  
read the source?

A quote from you:

"We're also saying that people who want to
contribute code to the project do so with the knowledge that we're
going to consider the code as assigned to Sourcefire unless other
arrangements are made."

That doesn't sound so "open source" to me and more like a charade.

And another quote in the same posting by you:

"Given that we need to be able to offer Snort under an alternative
license for commercial integrators who are integrating Snort and
don't want to adhere to the GPL it's essential that we retain the
right to relicense the totality of the codebase."

Now, there is the real reason.

Just be direct and communicate that version 3 will not be GPL and  
Sourcefire will now retain all rights. Unless you plan on having two  
source branches with zero intellectual-property cross over and  
licensed independently.

I am not hostile towards the concept. The concept is business and it  
is what it is.

Loyal.

On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Martin Roesch wrote:

> Snort 3.0 is open source.
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>  
> wrote:
> > Snort is open source, until version 3. But that is a whole other  
> > argument.
> > On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Joel Esler wrote:
> >
> > No one is taking a vote, we just said, "if we had a vote in it..."   
> > I'd
> > rather take the code out of the IDS/IPS and put it into an output  
> > module.
> >  One that is maintained well (as Shawn said).
> > Snort is an open source program, I don't see harm in discussion on  
> > Snort's
> > own mailing lists do you?
> > J
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>  
> > wrote:
> > > Is Sourcefire limited on development skill or man power?
> > >
> > > It makes no sense at all to remove one of the most common facilities
> > > in use by snort users because it is "too complex".
> > >
> > > In the end, you'll do what you are going to do regardless of the
> > > community -- we've seen it before. But don't use "complexity" and
> > > "bugs" as the excuse.
> > >
> > > Sourcefire is a publicly traded company -- Is it smart to be taking
> > > votes on product development from a mailing list? I wouldn't think  
> > > so.
> > >
> > > Loyal.
> > >
> > > On Apr 14, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Jason Brvenik wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have an ulterior motive and it is simple.
> > > >
> > > > Many of the bugs and issues over time with snort have been in  
> > > > output
> > > > plugins. Make one well supported, tested, unified method designed  
> > > > for
> > > > best performance and while doing so it improves the  
> > > > supportability and
> > > > maintainability of the code base.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > My vote is to provide as many output options as possible, to help
> > > > > keep
> > > > > snort used as a tool.
> > > > >
> > > > > The argument of code complexity being a good reason to remove  
> > > > > output
> > > > > facilities is only valid if the code is written poorly and not
> > > > > modular. This wheel doesn't need re-invented and this  
> > > > > conversation is
> > > > > kind of silly, unless there is ulterior motives for actually  
> > > > > wanting
> > > > > to remove this support.
> > > > >
> > > > > Loyal.
> > > > >
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