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Re: Snort Detect Binary Transfer


From: "Keith W. McCammon" <mccammon () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:51:33 -0400

So how about a way to detect if large amounts of
traffic or a trafic rate is occuring?

For example, if the connection speed grows past
5KB/sec, alert.

Is that possible?

You should be able to do this using a threshold rule based on dsize,
although (again) you're not detecting a binary transfer, you're just
detecting an abnormal amount of data flowing to a given host.

Perhaps you might look into MRTG, RRDTool, NTop, or something similar.
 These tools are probably better suited to bandwidth monitoring and
such, since that seems to be as close as you can come to binary
transfer detection, given your situation (SSH).

--- "Keith W. McCammon" <mccammon () gmail com> wrote:
Does anyone know of a rule to detect if any binary
transfer is occuring?

If you're looking for a specific binary, you may be
able to do that.
But to detect a binary transfer (independent of
transport protocol),
it would hard to distinguish, for the obvious
reasons.  Snort sees the
protocol headers at various levels, as well as the
data.  If there's a
preprocessor involved, then it can do some more
specific checks
against those protocols.  Unless you can manage a
match using one of
those methods, it's probably a guessing game at
best.

Specifically this would be used for SSH/SFTP/SCP.

You're not going to have much luck trying to match
against encrypted
protocols, unless you've cooked up a new way to pass
Snort the session
keys.  Try using Tripwire, or some other host-based
scheme if you need
to detect these types of system changes reliably.



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