Re: Administrativia: No advertising please

[Martin Roesch <roesch () sourcefire com>]

On May 14, 2004, at 12:44 AM, Eric Hines wrote:

> Come on guys, it's a part of the game.

Not here it isn't.  Snort users don't want to "play the game" and 
there's no reason they should have to, if we're playing a game on this 
mailing list I'm the guy making the rules and you're going to play by 
them or you're going to lose your access to this list.  If you want to 
do marketing, do it on your own nickel, this is not an opt-in list for 
whatever spamvertising you care to fire at people, and that goes for 
all the other vendors on this list.

I and the rest of the Sourcefire team could have been posting replies 
to most every message on this list expounding upon the wonders of our 
products and technologies for the last three and a half years, we don't 
do that because it detracts from the level of discussion and turns this 
into a forum that's less useful for solving the day to day problems of 
Snort users than what we have today.  I don't answer questions citing 
Sourcefire solutions unless people are specifically asking about them, 
I expect the same of all the other vendors here as well.

Can you imagine how bad this list would be if we had every commercial 
organization that's sell Snort or services around Snort blasting this 
list continuously with ads about whatever it is they're doing?  If that 
were to happen we may as well close down the list and be done with it, 
the value of this forum would quickly go to zero.

> I understood that these people had bills to pay, these sales people, 
> most of them at least, didn't make
> base salaries and lived off commission, who was I to discourage them by
> ranting back and asking how they got my contact information; frankly,
> who cares?

People on this list care, this list is not here as an advertising 
services for companies to do prospecting, if we were doing that then 
the owners of this list would be selling access to the member list and 
we're not doing that.  Guys with quotas have marketing departments to 
help them sell, it's not the responsibility of the people of this list 
to validate your business model.

> In short, businesses have a product to sell.

This is the same excuse that spammers use, that's not acceptable for 
this forum.

Once more, keep unsolicited advertising off this list and please don't 
use it as a prospecting list either.  If people ask about your product 
then you can feel free to answer, otherwise contribute to the community 
or don't say anything.

--
Martin Roesch - Founder/CTO, Sourcefire Inc. - (410)290-1616
Sourcefire: Intelligent Security Monitoring
roesch () sourcefire com - http://www.sourcefire.com
Snort: Open Source Network IDS - http://www.snort.org



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