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RE: Spade/Spice and Snort?


From: "Michael Steele" <michaels () winsnort com>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:58:03 -0800

All,

Spade and Spice will be transferred to Demarc shortly, and as far as I know
the current release of Spade will work with 2.x. At one point we did have it
installed and working on 2.x

Spade had a lot of possibilities, and still does, and would have gone far if
it would not have had the Silicon Defense name behind it.

Hopefully when the transfer of that technology to Demarc is finalized then
Spade will be given another chance based on its merits. It is a great
plug-in for Snort.

Cheers...

-Michael Steele
-- 
 System Engineer / Security Support Technician     
 mailto:michaels () winsnort com    
 Website: http://www.winsnort.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: snort-users-admin () lists sourceforge net [mailto:snort-users-
admin () lists sourceforge net] On Behalf Of Mark.Schutzmann () Omron com
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 8:38 AM
To: Matt Kettler
Cc: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: RE: [Snort-users] Spade/Spice and Snort?


Michael,

Excellent comments... exactly what I was looking for.

Best Regards,
Mark



                      Matt Kettler
                      <mkettler@evi-inc        To:
Mark.Schutzmann () Omron com, "Michael Steele" <michaels () winsnort com>
                      .com>                    cc:       snort-
users () lists sourceforge net
                                               Subject:  RE: [Snort-users]
Spade/Spice and Snort?
                      11/03/2003 09:05
                      AM






At 03:34 PM 11/2/2003, Mark.Schutzmann () Omron com wrote:

Michael,

Thanks for that. In fact, I have learned about Spade from SiliconDefense.
Since this is a user group, I am actually asking for experiential
comments.
In knowing that Spade works on statistical anomolies, I am wondering if
people are finding this to be as useful as it sounds, or whether it is
just
another tool to sort out FPs and whether it just adds overhead to Snort.

(dropping the undesirable cc to snort-users-admin () lists sourceforge net)

Personally, I successfully ran spade on a low-end hardware box so it's not
very high overhead.. it's definitely MUCH lower overhead than the
spp_conversation/spp_portscan2 pairing, which caused truly horrid packet
drop rates on the same hardware (>10%, and I think it was over 20%).

I found that in general things like installing a p2p client on a host that
previously did nothing but browse the web causes it to fire off quite a
bit

for a few days, but in general I found it to be fairly low on the false
alarms.. I did have to turn a few of the default settings off to get a
decent level of noise, but later versions of spade appeared to adopt the
same settings as the default.

Unfortunately, it looks like there's no version of spade designed for
snort

2.0.. the last version they released was 1/25/2003, and supported snort
1.9.0 (it works on 1.9.1 as well). It could possibly work with 2.0, but
I've not tried it.

Given that Silicon Defense has sold their sentaurus product line to
demarc,

it's unclear if they are going to continue development of spade or not.
It's kind of a shame I've not seen more active development of it.. it was
a

very useful plugin.











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