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bumper sticker slogan for secure software


From: pmeunier at cerias.purdue.edu (Pascal Meunier)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:07:23 -0400




On 7/18/06 11:45 AM, "Dana Epp" <dana at vulscan.com> wrote:

Or perhaps less arrogance in believing "it won't sink".

Absolute security is a myth. As is designing absolutely secure software.

I have high hopes in formal methods.

It is a lofty goal, but one of an absolute that just isn't achievable as
threats change and new attack patterns are found. Designing secure
software is about attaining a level of balance around software
dependability weighed against mitigated risks against said software to
acceptable tolerance levels, while at the same time ensuring said
software accomplishes the original goal... to solve some problem for the
user. 

On my office door is a bumper sticker I made. It simply says:

0x5

10 points to the first person to explain what that means.

Since you're at Microsoft I'll bet it's related to "RPC Layer returned error
0x5 (Access is denied.) This may happen if host security is not installed".
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216558/en-us

So it would be an oblique way of referring to host security.  If it was on a
motel-style door-handle card it could also mean "do not disturb" (send
visitors away with an "access denied").  Perhaps, "go away if you haven't
secured your system".  Who knows besides you ;)

Pascal



Regards,
Dana Epp 
[Microsoft Security MVP]
http://silverstr.ufies.org/blog/

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[mailto:sc-l-bounces at securecoding.org] On Behalf Of SC-L Subscriber Dave
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Subject: [SC-L] bumper sticker slogan for secure software

Paolo Perego [mailto:thesp0nge at gmail.com] writes:

"Software is like Titanic, pleople claim it was unsinkable. Securing
is  > providing it power steering"

But power steering wouldn't have saved it.  By the time the iceberg was
spotted, there was not enough time to turn that large a boat.  Perhaps
radar, but that doesn't make a very good analogy.  Maybe a thicker
tougher hull and automatic compartment doors?

-Dave




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