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FC: Canadian police want photo ID to buy a cellphone


From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:38:43 -0400


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From: Tim Meehan <tim () ocsarc org>
To: declan () well com, dave () farber net, efc-talk () efc ca
Subject: RCMP wants photo ID along with cellphone purchase
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:33:41 -0400
Organization: Ontario Consumers for Safe Access to Recreational Cannabis

I really don't see how this will solve the problem.  And also, the GSM cellular
phone I currently have was purchased in Vancouver, and is currently using a
Toronto SIM -- purchased privately with no involvement of the carrier
whatsoever.

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Newshawk: CMAP
Source: CBC
Pubdate: Fri, 18 Jul 2003
Webpage: http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/07/18/Consumers/photophone_030718

RCMP wants photo ID along with cellphone purchase

Last Updated Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:11:35

ST. JOHN'S - The RCMP drug squad in Newfoundland and Labrador would like
to see people buying cellular phones and other wireless communications
devices obliged to present photo identification.

Sgt. Greg Smith says officers have a hard time investigating some drug
dealers because they can buy many phones and remain anonymous.

"A lot of people are using false names, getting other people to get the
phone in their names, and things like this," says Smith. "It's hard to
keep up and keep track of all of these things."

One recent investigation lasted more than five months and cost more than
$100,000. Police say it was because the suspect used 11 different
phones, none of which was in his name.

The police want to be able to monitor the calls and find out who's on
them. That's easier when people are using regular telephones that have
known owners and fixed addresses.

Stores don't require the name of a cellphone purchaser.

Retailers say they have no reason not to sell phones to anyone who can
afford one, and they're under no obligation to ask for identification.

Dealer caught just outside the store

Lamonte Clarke, a sales associate at a Radio Shack outlet in St. John's,
says one person bought 54 phones over six months.

"He came into the store, and he used to buy a lot of cell phones, buy
pre-paid cell phone cards, that kind of stuff," says Clarke "They found
him actually dealing outside the store."

"You shouldn't just be able to use any name, and buy a telephone and put
it in anybody else's name and go ahead and use it," says the RCMP's
Smith. "It's causing us some real challenges."

Defence lawyer Bob Simmonds says he doesn't care about the challenges
faced by police.

"I am not going to feel very happy if I want to go in and buy something
at Radio Shack, and they say, 'you're going to fill out this information.'"

"Perhaps it's just me, but I have a real aversion to providing the state
or Big Brother with informationÂ…because they say they have a certain
concern," Simmonds says.

He says even criminals have a right to privacy.

Written by CBC News Online staff


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Tim Meehan, Communications Director
Ontario Consumers for Safe Access to Recreational Cannabis
tim () ocsarc org * http://www.ocsarc.org * 416-854-6343




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