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States forciby collecting DNA samples from newborns? [priv]
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:56:18 -0500
--- Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:56:07 -0600 From: Jules Siegel <jules_siegel () cafecancun com> Reply-To: jules_siegel () cafecancun com To: declan () well com Subject: States collecting newborn DNA samplesInteresting thread from drugwar.com on dna collection issues. Anti-drugwar activist Ed Forchion reports that he is fighting New Jersey's demand that he submit a DNA sample or return to prison. Another subscriber responded with the news that "Tangentially, every baby born in some states, is being subjected to relinquishing a blood sample, which is then kept in a state warehouse."
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [drugwar] Re: New Jersey Gov. can "KISS MY ASS" I'm not giving it! Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 06:39:49 -0800 (PST) From: Erin <hbmama1999 () yahoo com> Reply-To: drugwar () mindvox com To: drugwar () mindvox com I agree completely with Ed on this one, from my limited understanding of the issue. Tangentially, every baby born in some states, is being subjected to relinquishing a blood sample, which is then kept in a state warehouse. This was true in Michigan, when I gave birth there, and I've heard it's true in other states as well. I don't have a lot of info about where things currently stand, but I was disturbed that my first son's blood sample, taken supposedly to run a PKU screening ( a blood screen that tests for rare, but serious and preventable diseases), turned out to be warehoused in a state facility. I wrote a few letters to elected folks before my second child was born...then third, and they said that yes, this concerned them, and they'd "look into it". As far as I know, it's still being done, though. I took babies number four and five, born at home in MD, to a midwife in PA who uses an independent lab for the tests, but my first three now have samples ready and waiting to incriminate them, should they ever be suspected of committing a crime. As I recall, one of the reasons given for doing this, was to assist law enforcement investigations in the future. Erin --- Preston Peet <ptpeet () nyc rr com> wrote:
No offense Ed, I ask this only because I'm curious- What harm would it cause you to give then DNA? I'm not at all saying you should or that you shouldn't, I'm only asking what difference it will make were you to do so. Does it really mean so much that you will do more jail time to make your point? I wish you the best of luck whatever happens regardless. Peace, Preston ----- Original Message ----- From: ED FORCHION - U.S. DISSIDENT To: njweedman () yahoo com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:56 AM Subject: DNA: New Jersey Gov. can "KISS MY ASS" I'm not giving it! 12/2/2003 - I'm not sure how many of you on my e-mail list have followed my fight with the state of New Jersey over its new law mandating DNA testing but I'm at a cross road this morning. (1) I'm supposed to be off ISP (parole) on Dec 3rd tomorrow, ( http://www.njweedman.com/released.htm ) (2) The state of New Jersey has ordered me to provided DNA today at 10am or I will be arrested and my ISP release will be revoked! - In the past I've filled a "Writ of Habeas Corpus" before the federal courts seeking an injunction against this new law - you can read it here: (http://www.njweedman.com/dna.htm ) I've written to the Gov and the CODIS ( DNA collection unit) that I will not provide DNA, so this maybe one of the last e-mails I write as a semi-free person. I maybe going to JAIL for refusing to comply with an UNCONSTITUTIONAL law! PLEASE READ MY LETTER: (http://www.njweedman.com/dna_sample_refusal.htm ) I'm hoping, you internet webmasters and reporters will spread the word of this DNA case and please "REPORTERS" quote me - GOV KISS MY ASS! Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
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