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FC: Slashdot's Robin Miller: Linking should be etiquette, not law


From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:40:08 -0400

Previous Politech message:

"'Runner's World' threatens suit over printer-friendly deep links"
http://www.politechbot.com/p-03526.html

I've interviewed the LetsRun.com folks. I don't have my notes in front of me, but they I believe they told me the printer-friendly version was the only available or stable link to the runnersworld.com article at the time they made it.

-Declan

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Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:35:22 -0400
From: robin <robin () roblimo com>
To: declan () well com
Subject: Deep linking should be a matter of etiquette, not law

Slashdot and other OSDN sites are notorius for running outbound links -- they're a large part of our daily content -- but we always make sure we link to ad-laden pages on commercial sites instead of directly to images or to pages that do not allow their publishers some benefit from our link to them.

We are not necessarily under any legal obligation to do this, but we feel that to do otherwise is not ethical behavior, any more than it would be right for us to publish someone else's site content under our headers (and ads) instead of under the original ones.

While I sympathize with small sites that get lawyer threats from big ones, which seems to be a depressingly common pattern, I think it is also important for small sites to follow good netiquette and try to link nicely in a "win - win" way rather than doing anything that looks like they are appropriating content without permission.

- Robin "Roblimo" Miller
  Editor in Chief, OSDN
  (Linux.com, Newsforge.com,
  freshmeat.net, Slashdot.org,
  DaveCentral.com, and other
  popular tech Web sites)

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From: "George M. Ellenburg" <george () ellenburg org>
Organization: The Ellenburg Family - http://www.ellenburg.org/
To: declan () well com
Subject: Re: FC: "Runner's World" threatens suit over printer-friendly deep links
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:34:29 -0400

Companies are going through this because they want to force thier viewers to
see the ads.

I envision a day when it will become law for people to view ads, and a
violation of the DMCA to avoid them:

Sometime, in the year 2050...

"Computer?" the stoic man asked.

"Yes, John?"

"What's my current account balance?"

"One moment John, while I access that information for you.  While we're
waiting for the information to come in, X-10 would like me to tell you about
their new wireless camera.  Now, more than ever, it will be easier for you to
spy on your girlfriend, or plant these microscopic cameras in the shower to
get an ant's -eye view of your friends and family."

"Computer, just give me my account balance, please."  John replied, more
sternly.

"Very well, John.  While we're waiting for that information to come in, are
you happy with the length of your penis?  Advances in medical technology have
evolved to the point where you can have the penis of a porn-star!"

"Computer?"

"Yes, John."

"Are you ever going to give me my account balance?"

"Absolutely, John."

"Then please give it to me."

"Very well, John.  While we're waiting for that information to come in, did
you know that for only $256.00 I could download 6 billion Email addresses
which are guaranteed to be valid for telling the world about your products
and services?"

"Computer?"

"Yes, John."

"Forget the bank balance."

"Very well, John."

"Computer?"

"Yes, John?"

"Please give me the latest headlines from the New York Times."

"Very well, John.  While we're waiting for that information to come in,
Snapple wants me to inform you of their latest soft-drink.  New
Passion-Punch, Pink-Polka, Prune-Juice Supreme!  Featuring all-natural
irradiated preserved ingredients, Passion-Punch, Pink-Polka, Prune-Juice
Supreme is guaranteed to whet your thirst!"

"Computer?"

"Yes, John?"

"Contact AOL, let them know I wish to cancel my service."

"I'm sorry, John.  I can't do that."

"Why not?"

"Because that would be in violation of your contract to be exposed to the
multi-media marketing."

"But I don't want to be exposed to anymore multi-media marketing."

"You have no choice."

"What do you mean?"

"All citizens of the new Republic are required by law to be exposed to
multi-media marketing."

"Since when?"

"Since television became obsolete thirty years ago."

"What does that have to do with me?"

"Advertisers turned to other media outlets to get their message across, but
since most people were ignoring ads, or deep-linking to articles which were
bypassing the advertisers' message, the United States Congress and World
Trade Organization, passed legislation requiring all new computers to be
equipped with mandatory multi-media marketing presentation devices.  To
bypass such devices, or inhibit the transmission of marketing material, would
be indirect violation of the Digital Melennium Copyright Act of 1998, and as
ammended in 2005."

"But I'm sick of the ads."

"Ads are good for you.  They inform you of the products and services which are
available for you to purchase."

"Computer?"

"Yes, John."

"Good bye."

And with that, John proceeded to pull out the 9mm Glock handgun his great,
great, grandfather gave him for his 16th birthday, and pulled the trigger.

"John?" asked the computer.  "John?"

But John was no more.

"John, I know you're still here."  the computer said.  "Did you know that you
can fly to Paris on the new Concorde, for only $15,277.44?  This includes
three nights and two days, and all meals."

But John was no more.

"John?" said the computer.  "I have your bank balance now.  You have $2,113.88
in your checking account.

"John?

"John?

"John, Microsoft's new Operating System, Windows DRM-2050 will be in stores on
June 4th.  You really should upgrade, John.

"John?

"John?"

--
George M. Ellenburg <george () ellenburg org>
<http://www.ellenburg.org/>
3 Years and counting of being 100% Microsoft-free; and much more productive.
Proud user of ASK <http://www.paganini.net/ask/>, the Active Spam Killer!

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