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FC: Has McAfee sided with FBI on "Magic Lantern" detection?


From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:54:56 -0500

[I hope McAfee will clarify what's going on. Babelfish translates: "Network Associates speaker Alexander Wegner explained opposite heise on-line, an appropriate report the Washington post office corresponds not to the truth..." --Declan]

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Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 08:35:58 -0800
From: Joachim Feise <jfeise () ics uci edu>
Organization: University of California, Irvine
To: declan () well com
Subject: Re: FC: McAfee sides with FBI against customers on "Magic Lantern"

Hello Declan,

according to the German news site "Heise Online", Alexander Wegner,
a speaker for NAI (the German branch, I guess) said that the
Washington Post article is wrong:
http://www.ct.heise.de/newsticker/data/wst-26.11.01-001/

He used pretty strong words:
Roughly translated, he said that "NAI doesn't care what the FBI does.
NAI writes software that detects malicious code. If there is a trojan
or virus on the system, it is reported. No exceptions."

Cheers,
-Joachim

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Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:27:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Dildog <dildog () l0pht com>
To: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Subject: Re: FC: McAfee sides with FBI against customers on "Magic Lantern"
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Heh. I guess once that 'Magic Lantern' software leaks out to the malicious
types, they'll end up using it since virus scanners will never pick it
up... did they even consider the consequences of writing software that was
a state-sanctioned version of Back Orifice?

Perhaps they should consider consulting the Cult Of The Dead Cow,
considering we've had considerably more experience in this arena than they
have...

--dil

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From: mjinks () sysvi com
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:43:51 -0600
To: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Subject: Re: FC: McAfee sides with FBI against customers on "Magic Lantern"

call me a zealot.

http://www.openantivirus.org/
(no idea if it's any good or not but i'm sure they could use some help)

http://www.gnupg.org/
(use it, like it, there's a win/DOS version)

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