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FC: Alan Dershowitz suggests judges could issue "torture warrants"


From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:22:40 -0500

See also:

"FBI wants to cast aside civil liberties, torture mentioned"
http://www.politechbot.com/p-02684.html

"The Objectivist Center applauds national IDs, torture, snooping?"
http://www.politechbot.com/p-02709.html

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From: "Robert Helmer" <roberthelmer () earthlink net>
To: "Declan McCullagh" <declan () well com>
Subject: Dershowitz and Torture Warrants
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:00:42 -0600

Declan, a few weeks ago on Cyberia I posted a satiric comment about the government seeking the power to issue torture warrants against terrorist suspects -- To my surprise, some took the posting seriously. And now, guess what? Speaking in St. Louis yesterday, Alan Dershowitz seems to have come out in favor of it. The Post-Dispatch reports the following in today's edition:

"Even torture may not be off the table as an information-gathering tool, Dershowitz said. But there must be a national debate about the circumstances in which torture is permissible and who should have the power to decide when to use it. Dershowitz suggested that judges could issue torture warrants in certain cases."

<http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/news/D2614FEED949540D86256AFB0043EB5B?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2Cdershowitz?opendocument&headline=U.S.+now+might+have+to+consider+what+once+was+unthinkable,+Dershowitz+says>http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/news/D2614FEED949540D86256AFB0043EB5B?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2Cdershowitz?opendocument&headline=U.S.+now+might+have+to+consider+what+once+was+unthinkable,+Dershowitz+says

What's interesting is that, besides the wholly unconstitutional nature of torture, no one seems to consider its complete lack of effectiveness as an information gathering tool, since the nature of the duress it causes will prompt the suspect to say anything he thinks the torturers want to hear.... Witness the Inquisition, where suspects routinely implicated every possible innocent bystander to simply meet the torturers' quota of truth....

Thanks,

Bob Helmer
Daily Rotation
<http://www.dailyrotation.com>http://www.dailyrotation.com
Shell Extension City
<http://www.shellcity.net>http://www.shellcity.net
St. Louis, Missouri

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