FC: More on Europe recording phone calls, Net traffic for 7 years

[Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>]

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:18:33 -0400
To: declan () well com, politech () politechbot com
From: Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg () epic org>
Subject: Re: FC: Europe weighs recording all phone calls, Net traffic for
 7 yrs

Declan -

It is worth noting the European privacy commissioners have
expressed strong opposition to similar proposals in the
past. Most recently the privacy commissioners expressed
opposition to the record retention requirements in the
COE Cyber-Crime convention.

Opinion 4/2001 on the Council of Europe's Draft
Convention on Cyber Crime

http://www.europa.eu.int/comm/internal_market/en/media/dataprot/wpdocs/wp41en.htm

Marc Rotenberg.

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:43:27 -0500
From: "Matthew G. Saroff" <msaroff () pobox com>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U)
To: declan () well com
Subject: Re: FC: Europe weighs recording all phone calls, Net traffic for 7 yrs

Declan McCullagh wrote:

> the FBI six years ago. It calls for the retention of "every phone call,
> every mobile phone call, every fax, every e-mail, every website's contents,
> all internet usage, from anywhere, by everyone, to be recorded, archived
> and be accessible for at least seven years," notes the journal.

        I'm going to invest in Tape and Hard Drive manufacturers.
--
Matthew G. Saroff

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From: "Thomas Leavitt" <thomasleavitt () hotmail com>
To: declan () well com
Subject: Re: FC: Europe weighs recording all phone calls, Net traffic for 7 yrs
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:26:54 -0700

ROTFL... I almost fell out of my chair laughing...

Here's a quote from an article by PETER TIPPETT, M.D., Ph.D., the executive 
publisher of Information Security and CTO of TruSecure Corp.

http://www.infosecuritymag.com/articles/may01/columns_executive_view.shtml

"A few years ago, I hosted a TruSecure ISP Backbone Security (ISPsec) 
Consortium meeting, where we discussed a problem MCI and other ISPs were 
having trying to fulfill an FBI wiretap request. The court order wanted MCI 
to write to disk a week's worth of data from an OC3 Internet pipe for later 
analysis. After many months of complex technical work, using the fastest 
processors, tools and disk arrays obtainable, MCI was only able to sniff 
the headers from the wire."

This was three years ago, so, clearly, on a practical basis, we have 
nothing to worry about... however, of course, it is of course worrisome 
that these people are so clueless, that totally clueless people are making 
policy, and that the policy is so indifferent to the threat to personal 
freedom and potential for abuse that an archive like this would create. The 
consideration of items like this leaves things open for more potentially 
abusive activities on a smaller scale.

Regards,
Thomas Leavitt

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