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FC: Did Super Bowl cameras used by police violate the law?
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:17:18 -0500
[The Washington Post article on this (http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9757-2001Jan31.html) dismissed the Fourth Amendment problems a little too glibly, I think. --Declan]
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:44:50 -0500 To: declan () well com From: Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg () epic org> Subject: Re: FC: Cameras at Super Bowl scanned faces looking for criminals I think there is a reasonably good argument that this was an unconstitutional search. Keep in mind that this involved a (1) search by means of an enhanced sensory device that (2) identified known people (3) that was operated by law enforcement (4) without a warrant, probable cause or exigent circumstances. The ACLU really should file. Marc.
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:53:17 -0500 To: emmanuel Goldstein <emmanuel () 2600 COM> From: e cummings <bernies () netaxs com> Subject: facial recognition software used by authorities at super bowl Cc: Lazlow <lazlow () lazlow com>i've heard the secret service uses this in some crowd situations to spot people on their list. no doubt it will be used more frequently in the future, with cameras all over being networked to alert law-enforcement whenever anybody they're looking for happens to be within camera range...
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From: terry.s () juno com To: declan () well com Cc: politech () politechbot com, trigaux () sptimes com, info () viisage com, wk () c4i org, rotenberg () epic org Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:52:11 -0500 Subject: Re: FC: Cameras at Super Bowl scanned faces looking for criminals X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 In doing some research for an electronic design project, it struck me that the technology now exists in electronic smart cards (see www.atmel.com and review 89SCxxxx and 90SCxxxx ASIC's, and RF interface cards, or their European competitors) to implant a chip inside an almost mandatory card, like a driver's license, or in a store shopping card, such that the presence or passage of an individual through a portal could be monitored without that individual realizing he was being tracked. This would be similar to what's done with "pay at the pump" cards or toll electronic speed passes, but could be hidden from view and tracked without the card bearer realizing that his wallet could be inspected without ever leaving his pocket. How many and which states are complying with Federal "carrot and stick" coercion to include Social inSecurity numbers on state driver's licenses, but coding them in non-visible manners so as to not scare license holders into thinking they're being tracked by arguably illegal use of such SSN's? We're not approaching 1984. We're past it. Terry
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