FC: Where have all the good names gone? Dupont grabs science.info

[Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>]

[Preregistration ("sunrise period") lets trademark holders snatch up domain 
names before the general public. Of course only firms that actually own 
trademarks are supposed to be participating. I'll forward any response from 
DuPont. --Declan]

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From: admin () consumer net (admin)
To: <karen.y.galbrith () usa dupont com>
Subject: "SCIENCE" trademark
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:10:24 -0400

Dear Ms. Galbrith:

This message is to follow-up the telephone message.

I am the director of Consumer.net and the owner the Science.net.  I am
contacting you concerning your registration of the domain name SCIENCE.info
which was registered during the Sunrise Period for trademark holders.

In the application you submitted the trademark number is "0" and the date of
trademark is "0200-01-03."  This information is clearly invalid.  I also
searched the www.USPTO.gov trademark database and I was unable to find a
trademark for "SCIENCE" registered to the du Pont Company.

Please identify the trademark used to register SCIENCE.info during the .info
Sunrise period.

Thank You,

Russ Smith

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You searched for:
"science.info"

Domain Name:  SCIENCE.INFO
Created On:  2001-AUG-02 18:22:06.0 UTC
Expiration Date:  2006-AUG-02 18:22:06.0 UTC
Trademark Name:  SCIENCE
Trademark Date:  0200-01-03
Trademark Country:  US
Trademark Number:  00000000
Sponsoring Registrar:  5035-CD
Status:  NEW
Status:  LOCKED
Status:  OK
Registrant ID:  C109666-LRMS
Registrant Name:  Karen Galbraith
Registrant Organization:  E I du Pont de Nemours and Company
Registrant Street1:  Barley Mill Road, Suite P40-202a
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:  Wilmington
Registrant State/Province:  Delaware
Registrant Postal Code:  19808
Registrant Country:  US
Registrant Phone:  +1.3029922941
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Email:  karen.y.galbrith () usa dupont com
Admin ID:  C109667-LRMS
Admin Name:  Karen Galbraith
Admin Organization:  DUPONT DOW ELASTOMERS L.L.C.
Admin Street1:  Barley Mill Road, Suite P40-202a
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:  New York
Admin State/Province:
Admin Postal Code:  19808
Admin Country:  US
Admin Phone:  +1.3029922941
Admin Email:  karen.y.galbrith () usa dupont com
Billing ID:  C109667-LRMS
Billing Name:  Karen Galbraith
Billing Organization:  DUPONT DOW ELASTOMERS L.L.C.
Billing Street1:  Barley Mill Road, Suite P40-202a
Billing Street2:
Billing Street3:
Billing City:  New York
Billing State/Province:
Billing Postal Code:  19808
Billing Country:  US
Billing Phone:  +1.3029922941
Billing Email:  karen.y.galbrith () usa dupont com
Tech ID:  C109667-LRMS
Tech Name:  Karen Galbraith
Tech Organization:  DUPONT DOW ELASTOMERS L.L.C.
Tech Street1:  Barley Mill Road, Suite P40-202a
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:  New York
Tech State/Province:
Tech Postal Code:  19808
Tech Country:  US
Tech Phone:  +1.3029922941
Tech Email:  karen.y.galbrith () usa dupont com

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From: admin () consumer net (admin)
To: <declan () well com>
Subject: RE: .info domains going to TM holders
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 23:20:43 -0400
Message-ID: <004701c11eef$f136c500$b5e20a18 () alex1 va home com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal

the .info whois is running http://afilias.info.  I cannot find any good
generic domains and sunrise is still running.



privacy.info

Trademark Name:  Unknown
Trademark Date:  2040-01-02
Trademark Country:  AL
Trademark Number:  0

consumer.info

Trademark Name:  consumer
Trademark Date:  1994-05-23
Trademark Country:  KR
Trademark Number:  40-1994-136112

pets.info

Trademark Name:  pets
Trademark Date:  2000-03-05
Trademark Country:  IL
Trademark Number:  153278563

movies.info

Trademark Name:  MOVIES
Trademark Date:  1983-07-04
Trademark Country:  DE
Trademark Number:  652325


more posted on ICANN's board.

http://forum.icann.org/cgi-bin/rpgmessage.cgi?newtldagmts;3B6F769A00000342



-----Original Message-----
From: admin () consumer net [mailto:admin () consumer net]
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 12:43 AM
To: declan () well com
Subject: RE: .info domains going to TM holders


The taken .info domains are queued up for the Sunrise period for
Tucows only.  This means the list of (soon to be) taken domains
under the .info Sunrise does not even included queued orders for
all the other registrars in addition to Tucows.  Tucows is not
taking landrush applications for these domains since there is no
hope of the domains ever reaching the Landrush stage.

Some domains already queued for Sunrise registration:
"consumer.info", "privacy.info" "music.info" "pets.info"
"movies.info."  I have checked only a very small sample but I would
say very roughly 80% or more of good generic .info domains are
already queued up for registration during Sunrise.






-----Original Message-----
From: admin () consumer net [mailto:admin () consumer net]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:32 AM
To: declan () well com
Subject: .info domains going to TM holders


Looks like there won't be many good .info domains left after the
trademark holders get their pick  during the "Sunrise" period.
There is no whois yet but initial registration applications are
being accepted for the "Landrush" period.  When these initial
registrations are made the response is "Domain Taken" if it was
already registered under Sunrise.

The first 2 I tried, "consumer.info" and "privacy.info" were
already taken under Sunrise by owners of trademarks on "privacy"
and "consumer."  Most likely the trademarks were for some type of
artwork containing the word.  This loophole in the .info "Sunrise"
rules approved by ICANN allows generic domains to be taken before
the public has a chance.

http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/info/registry-agmt-appj-11may01.htm

"In order for trademark and service mark owners to qualify to
receive a registration during the Sunrise Period (a "Sunrise
Registration"), the following information must be provided to
Registry Operator: (i) the ASCII characters name of the trademark
or service mark; (ii) the date the registration issued; (iii) the
country of registration; and (iv) the registration number."

The loophole is that trademarks are often not issues based on
"ASCII characters name of the trademark or service mark" but are
based on artwork that happens to contain a generic term.

Russ Smith
http://TheNic.com

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