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FC: CyberPatrol decryption utility mirrored in response to lawsuit
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:46:46 -0500
It should be obvious to anyone who has half a clue about the Internet what happens when a company or government tries to stomp out something it doesn't like.
The offending bytes appear in every corner of the globe.It happened in the case of DeCSS (http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=mirror), and it's happening now with the CyberPatrol decryption utility. So far the verboten-ware is at:
http://bur-jud-118-039.rh.uchicago.edu/ ftp://blackstar.myip.org/pub/mirrored/ http://www.shub-internet.org/cp4/cp4break.html http://www.wwcn.org/~grit/free/ http://www.reed.edu/~turnerd/cyberpatrol.tar.gz http://www.mit.edu/~ocschwar/ http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kris_j/rio.html ftp://128.148.190.238 http://cr939566-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com:2600/FusionReactor.html#mattel http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index.html Slashdot.org thread: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/03/16/0022227&mode=thread Background: http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=cyberpatrol -Declan
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:51:45 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Gowan <dgowan () tfn net> Reply-To: Dave Gowan <dgowan () tfn net> To: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com> Subject: RE: CyberPatrol sues coders who revealed flaws in its software On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:> >They also offered a small ``cphack'' utility for ``people oppressed by Cyber> >Patrol'' that, when run on a parent's computer, reveals the password that > >blocks questionable Web sites -- and also discloses the product's entire > >list of more than 100,000 Internet sites deemed unsuitable for children. DeClan: Let me see if I understand this... the company made an inferior blocking product, not hacker-proof, and they sell it for $30, and now that someone has exposed it as a deficient product, they want the courts to guarantee they still get to make the same large profit despite the defects in the product? I like the phrase above, "...discloses the product's entire list of more than 100,000 internet sites deemed unsuitable for children." Maybe now we should get the cphack utility, extract the 100,000 sites, and publish the list at several sites, so everyone can see if they've been blocked when they shouldn't have, and if they have lost any income as a consequence. The newspapers would probably like to the see the list, too, to see if it is fair. Send the list to the Wall Street Journal and to Jessie Berst (Berst's AnchorDesk) at ZDNet. I wrote articles in three newspapers on this issue of mandatory software blocking, saying that blocking should be up to parents and not government and not any third parties; I'd like to see this one exposed if possible. Dave Gowan Tallahassee
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From: gep2 () terabites com Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 23:41:00 -0600 To: declan () well com The CyberPatrol people (and their attorneys) are idiots. I know of NO better way to ENSURE that the site will be mirrored around the world, and that tens of thousands of offline copies of it will be created.If they're hoping to help their cause, this is the WRONG way for CyberPatrol todo that. The Net doesn't take kindly to this kind of legal bullying! Gordon Peterson http://web2.airmail.net/gep2/ Support the Anti-SPAM Amendment! Join at http://www.cauce.org/ 12/19/98: the day the Conservatives demonstrated their scorn for their fraudulent sham of representative government. Voters, remember it!
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 01:13:42 -0600 (CST) From: sam th <sam () bur-jud-118-039 rh uchicago edu> To: Declan McCullagh <declan () wired com> Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] CyberPatrol sues programmers who published info on encryption -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have a mirror on my website. However, since this hit slashdot, enough mirroring has gone on already that the genie is out of the bottle, so to speak. sam th sytobinh () uchicago eduhttp://bur-jud-118-039.rh.uchicago.edu
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From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii () openpgp net> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 02:03:22 -0600 To: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>Subject: Re: FC: CyberPatrol sues coders who revealed flaws in its software, from APX-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.06 c06 In <4.3.0.20000315220653.02666f00 () mail well com>, on 03/15/00 at 09:07 PM, Declan McCullagh <declan () well com> said: >Background: > http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=cyberpatrol >If you want to download the software before the injunction hits: > http://hem.passagen.se/eddy1/reveng/cp4/cp4break.html >If anyone sets up a mirror site, please let me know. Hi Declan, You should have known I couldn't resist. :) http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/cp4break/index.html You might want to make reference to http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/index.html As I will have links to the above mirror and additional sites that I am mirroring.
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 05:34:09 -0500 From: "Peter D. Junger" <junger () SAMSARA LAW CWRU EDU> Subject: Re: CyberPatrol (censorware) sues reverse-engineers I have downloaded all the files at <http://hem.passagen.se/eddy1/reveng/cp4/cp4break.html>, but am not sure that I got all the hot stuff, since at least one file was missing. It turns out to be a wonderful tutorial on decryption, modular artithmetic, 8086 assembly language, etc. I don't know yet whether I dare mirror it. It's got crypto in it, but under the new regulations I guess I can do it. I suspect that the big risk is the DMCA. It does make a wonderful example of how to circumvent weak encryption. But I am not sure that the circumvention has anything to do with copyrighted materials. I'm off now, but will look at it more closely later. But, anyway, I wanted to point out that this is seriously useful educational stuff; it's not just a cute hack, although I am sure that it is that too. The programmers explain how they went about opening up the filter program, using intuition, a disassembler, and a lot of skill and knowledge. -- Peter D. Junger--Case Western Reserve University Law School--Cleveland, OH EMAIL: junger () samsara law cwru edu URL: http://samsara.law.cwru.edu NOTE: junger () pdj2-ra f-remote cwru edu no longer exists
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