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FC: Responses to White House wanting to trace Net users
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 18:47:06 -0500
The forthcoming report at issue (nearly 3,000 downloads so far): http://www.politechbot.com/docs/unlawfulconduct.html The full slashdot.org thread: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/03/05/2157257&mode=thread *********** http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/03/05/2157257&cid=98 Attempt to weaken Privacy Protection Act (Score:3, Informative) by Animats (slashdot-replies () animats com) on Monday March 06, @12:41PM ESTUh oh. This is a call to weaken the Privacy Protection Act of 1980. That's the law that made it possible for Steve Jackson Games to win against the Secret Service.
The Privacy Protection Act of 1980 provides extra protections agains searches and seizures for "publishers". A "publisher" is defined as "a person reasonably believed to have a purpose to disseminate to the public a newspaper, book, broadcast, or other similar form of public communication". When Congress wrote this (under pressure, incidentally, from the commercial press), they didn't forsee that the number of publishers was about to increase substantially. Anyone with a web site is a publisher under this law, and gets extra protections against arbitrary search and seizure. Some law enforcement units hate this.
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From: "Thomas Leavitt" <thomasleavitt () hotmail com> To: declan () well com Subject: Re: FC: White House report says government wants to trace Net users Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 14:22:33 PST'Police should be able to determine the source of hacker attacks or "anonymous emails that contain bomb threats," states the 200 KB document prepared by a high-level working group chaired by Attorney General Janet Reno.'They are delusional... this will never be achieved... was there no one who understands how the Internet works on this committee? The Internet is inherently not secureable... even if, somehow, you could forge an international consensus on a standard means of identification/authentication, you would have to issue every single person (and Internet connected object) in the world some form of unspoofable authentication token and require it's use whenever a computer terminal is accessed... and then embed a requirement for referencing that authentication through every layer of every protocol... and ensure that every token was accounted for (as people die, objects get replaced or destroyed or otherwise altered, people get different grades of access).It is ludicrous to even contemplate... the thought gives me a headache... you would have to throw out just about every computer in existence... this is not the PSTN... the data logging requirements alone would give nightmares... GTE just ordered 15 Sun E10000's for it's on-line billing database... imagine the overhead and costs imposed by a requirement to seriously track activities on the Internet... migrane is not the word... not to mention the privacy implications...Almost makes me want to quit being an entreprenuer and go to Washington and bang heads until someone gets a clue!Thomas
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 08:47:25 -0800 To: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>... From: David Honig <honig () sprynet com> Subject: Re: White House report says government wants to trace Net users When everyone is a publisher, publishers lose rights? At 07:48 AM 3/6/00 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: >The forthcoming report: > http://www.politechbot.com/docs/unlawfulconduct.html Congress should consider approving a law to remove some privacy protections from journalists and publishers. "With the advent of the Internet and widespread computer use, almost any computer can be used to 'publish' material," says the draft document, which also recommends reduced privacy rights for cable modem users.
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