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FC: John Gilmore: CALEA wiretap law DOES NOT cover the Net
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:25:19 -0400
------- Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:40:43 -0700 From: John Gilmore <gnu () toad com> To: declan () well com cc: politech () vorlon mit edu, gnu () toad com Subject: Re: FC: CALEA wiretap law DOES NOT cover the Internet. Declan, the whole compromise in CALEA when it was first passed, was that it would apply only to basic telecommunications. Wires. And very basic wireless services, when there are no wires to tap. People anywhere else in the protocol stack don't have a requirement to wiretap. IP and everything built above IP is exempt. Frame Relay and such things are exempt. Modem manufacturers are exempt. Routers are exempt. Boxes that gateway voice phone calls to IP are exempt. If you want to tap those phone calls, you tap the WIRES, not the IP. If wiring is involved, only the company that runs the wires has the evil rotten requirement to be repulsive police state scabs. If wireless is involved, only the company that runs the transmitters is required by law to be evil. Voice is being carried over IP today. There is no requirement that the vendors of talk-to-your-buddy-over-the-Internet software -- or of Internet services, rather than software, that offer voice communication -- build in wiretapping to satisfy J. Edgar Freeh. If these services become more popular, or even widespread, Old J. Edgar will have to stir from his moldy grave and buy gear that will decode what they want -- off the wires. Without help from the IETF. John PS: It's a very good thing that the honorable Los Angeles Police Department spent the last fifteen years wantonly violating the numerous legal and procedural safeguards that protect US residents from illicit wiretapping. People were starting to believe the FBI when they lied that illicit wiretaps don't ever happen, and certainly not on a mass scale. The LA County Public Defender's office, which provides lawyers for 70% of accused felons in LA, is in the process of getting about 500 convicted people out of jail. The evidence used to convict them came from illegal wiretaps, which were never properly applied for, court-authorized, or reported (either to the defendants or to the public). The corruption went all the way up to the elected District Attorney of Los Angeles, Gil Garcetti. See Deputy Public Defender Kathy Quant's summary article at http://pd.co.la.ca.us/CACJ.htm, or the whole web site at http://pd.co.la.ca.us/. I wonder what smart defense lawyer will find and expose the equivalent high-level corruption at the FBI? I'm sure it exists, or the FBI Director wouldn't be so manic about insisting on ever-increasing wiretap authority with ever-decreasing public visibility. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology To subscribe: send a message to majordomo () vorlon mit edu with this text: subscribe politech More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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