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Re: Penetration tester or Ethical hacker future?


From: "crazy frog crazy frog" <i.m.crazy.frog () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:25:56 +0530

Comments inline....

Most of you would be agreed that penetration testing market has became
commodity. Moreover as a penetration tester, I agree that automated
penetration testing tools like Core IMPACT, etc can never replace us as we
still need to verify all the findings and identify false positive. Nothing
wrong with those automated tools, I think really it's a great tool!

Everyone require some kind of tools to automate the task. Obiviously
if you have a large network you are not going to manually check every
port,service by your self.For that you need such tools.But these tools
alone can not do the work you need qualified person who understand the
results and then move forward with his own.

A decent penetration tester would typically have a broad range of IT skills
from Operating System, Network to Programming. I also need to mention that
these broad range of skills are not something that you could gain by working
for 2-3 years, I believe that  a good penetration tester could gain these
broad ranges of skill in at least 5 years? Maybe more or less depending the
person I guess. So I would expect for a company to hire these kind of
penetration testers they need to spend a little bit of cash for their wages.
To sum up, I think a penetration tester or ethical hacker has highly
technical skills.

Yes skills are required.But it depends on the person to person .Every
one grow with the time.

At the end of the day, Business is business. Who cares if you possess highly
technical skills? The business and its people especially the C-executive
level are only interested
Whether your highly technical skill can bring more revenue or money to them?
Right?

NO!!Don't think so.Up to a point you can impress client with your
words after that you need to prove your self.Your work.if you don't do
good work it will work first time Next time dont expect that client to
give you another contract.

It is interesting that the top major reason why business now days
considering pen testing on its agenda is because of compliance and as part
of risk management agenda rather than security wise they need it or fear of
someone can break in. So I strongly believe COMPLIANCE is still the main
reason for any vulnerability testing activities in the company.
Compliance is one of the primary reason but it is not the alone.There
are  many more.If someone outsourcing his work then data security is
the primary concern for him.

Now the question, I really want to know what is your thought on where the
penetration testing market is going? Will the penetration tester job
description will change over time because of the evolution of automated
tools?

So far it looks good for next few years.We can not say its in mature
state like antivirus. There is no universally accepted standards.You
can say that it is just starting up to take the pace.

HTH--
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