Re: Buffer Overflow Experiment

[Amit Bagree <bagree () cmu edu>]

" The basic stack structure is:

 [Buffer][EBP/Frame pointer][Return addr/saved
 Instruction Ptr][arguments]

 You need to account for the Frame pointer/ BP."

One doesnt need to use binoculars at all to read an
email, which in turn begets the question why some
people waste so much time just to repeat things
putting it in different words and show-off their
knowledge? 

I'm sure someone wont have time to take reading
classes but definately waste it replaying emails.

~Amit



--- Justin Ferguson <jnferguson () gmail com> wrote:

> one doesnt need the code at all to understand your
> situation, and in
> fact, when he said that he overwrote one byte past,
> the most likely
> presumption is that he hit the saved frame pointer,
> which in turn
> begets the question, why would you be answering a
> question you dont
> know the answer to?
>
> As I said out-of-band to you Alcides, go lookup the
> documentation for
> the instructions 'leave' and 'ret' or whatever equiv
> for your
> architecture, if you still don't see your answer,
> think a bit harder
> for a while, if you're still not getting it see if
> this paper rouses
> any ideas http://www.phrack.org/archives/55/P55-08 ,
> lastly if you
> still don't get it perhaps you should consider a new
> hobby, maybe
> something pen-testing web-apps.
>
> On 9/13/07, Amit Bagree <bagree () cmu edu> wrote:
> > Hey Alcides,
> >
> > It would be more helpful if you can provide the
> actual
> > code. Are you sure you are watching the EIP values
> > right after the overflow happens and I mean in asm
> not
> > C. The key to understanding BO is to notice how
> the
> > stack, EIP and EBP are manipuated for each asm
> > instruction. "Smashing the stack for fun and
> profit"
> > is the quintessential reference for understanding
> BO.
> > The basic stack structure is:
> >
> > [Buffer][EBP/Frame pointer][Return addr/saved
> > Instruction Ptr][arguments]
> >
> > You need to account for the Frame pointer/ BP.
> From
> > what you say in 3] and 4] either you are not
> looking
> > at the what you need to watch for or you are not
> > reaching till the ret addr. Hope that helps.
> >
> >
> > Cheers & Chi!!
> > Amit
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Alcides <alcides.hercules () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi List,
> > > I was wondering if someone has already done
> this.
> > > I'm testing a small program written in C,
> especially
> > > coded for testing
> > > buffer overflow.
> > > In source code, I have assigned char
> buffer[512]; I
> > > compile with gcc and
> > > run on bash.
> > >
> > >  As soon as I pass "512" characters as
> > > argument("A"x512--being precise),
> > > the program gives " Segmentation fault (core
> dumped
> > > )" -->as desired.
> > >
> > > 1] Using GDB debugger, it has been verified that
> the
> > > extended
> > > instruction pointer EIP has been overwritten, as
> > > expected.
> > > (EIP-->0x41414141)
> > > 2] But, on passing "513" chars. argument, the
> EIP
> > > becomes 0x0 -->WHY
> > > 3]On passing 520 chars. argument,  EIP takes
> 'some'
> > > value and EBP
> > > becomes 0x41414141
> > > 4]Thereafter, every increment by 1 --> in input
> > > characters causes EIP to
> > > remain the same as that 'some' value and EBP to
> take
> > > various incremental
> > > values.
> > >  every time, for several unit increments
> > >
> > > [I am using:  2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 kernel,  i686,
> > > Disabled VA randomization]
> > >
> > >  Any views that help me understand why EIP
> becomes
> > > 0, are welcome.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks.
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