Re: Mile2 Training (Certifications)

["Lee Lawson" <leejlawson () gmail com>]

I actually wrote the Mile2 course, along with some others.  We wrote
it in response to the poor content produced by the EC-Council which
was badly written in broken English, out of date and in some cases
just plainly incorrect!

I no longer work for Mile2 as I now dedicate myself fulltime to
penetration testing rather than split it between testing and
authoring/teaching.  Due to this, I can offer you an 'inside',
unbiased view on the courseware.

It's pretty good actually!  It is kept up to date with bi-annual
updates and a modular course which can be updated seperately along
with hands on labs after each module.  This hands on element is
written by real world pen testers, such as myself, that reflect real
world actions.

You are right, it does not have the global face of the global
EC-Council (4 men from the far east!) but surely it is the course that
matters?  Of course, it depends a lot on the quality of the instructor
as to exactly how much you learn, there is nothing I can tell you
about that as the instructors change.

In the interest of balance, have you thought about any of the
Foundstone courses?  The company is at the forefront of pen testing
and there courses have good reviews.  http://www.foundstone.com/

If you are in the UK, a Scottish company has written a new course
about penetration testing and they say that they have written it about
penetration testing and not about hacking.  So it should concentrate
on the kind of work you will do as a pen tester and not waste time in
cool and funky, but useless lessons on actions you simply do not do in
testing engagements.  The training company is learningit and the guy
who wrote it works for www.dns.co.uk,  check out
http://www.learningit.com/checkpoint/VaPT.asp

I advise anyone that wants some pen testing training that they study
the course description and outline carefully, ask for a bio of the
instructor and if you can, see if you can get a sample of the
courseware.

Whatever you go for, have fun on it and pump the instructor for as
much information as you can.

later,

On 13 Jan 2007 23:11:02 -0000, 09sparky () gmail com <09sparky () gmail com> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I just had a quick question pertaining to Penetration Testing Certifications.  Has anyone taken or heard much about Mile2 Training? They provide two 
> training courses/certifications "Certified Penetration Tester Specialist" (CPTS) & "Certified Penetration Tester Expert" 
> (CPTE).  I was wondering what others in the field thought of these courses/certifications.  They don't seem to be widely recognized yet, but 
> (is that going to change)?  I took the CEH course a few years ago and was thoroughly disappointed with the content and the course all together.  I 
> was wondering if Mile2 was different.
>
> Any comments/suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Sparky
>
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