Re: Is there a scam in Security Certifications

[xelerated <xelerated () gmail com>]

Good research.... alarming to say the least.

I have a CEH cert. now im bummed.

But I also took the class. I did like the class, and it did have some
value for me.
I dont regret taking it at all. It filled in a few gaps that I had.

Makes me wonder about going after any others though.



On 28 May 2006 05:56:45 -0000, adich71 () yahoo com <adich71 () yahoo com> wrote:
> I came across these posts recently at a forum
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> There is more hype than substance in EC-Council.
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> Check this link https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?CorpID=429981
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> EC-Council or International Council of ECommerce Consultants is a Nevada incorporated company and has NO office in New 
> York as they claim. Pay them a visit and there is absolutely NOTHING there. Any enquiry called is always met with one 
> response - please email. Try checking their claims before you invest in their products
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> EC-Council had announced an university earlier this year at Wyoming. They claim the certifications would get credits 
> for their masters program. Its a diploma paper mill at best that will have its license revoked sooner or later as per 
> the legislature revoking all unaccredited programs. Check this link  http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2006/Digest/SF0069.htm
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> From their university website "EC-Council University is licensed by the State of Wyoming under Wyo. Stat. 21-2-401 through 
> 21-2-407 and neither the Department of Education nor the Wyoming State Board of Education has accredited or endorsed any course 
> of study offered by EC-Council University"
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> If you check their members list as well, you will realize that most of them are ficticious or hardly involved. Renaming 
> the only program they sell is not going to fool the government for long I guess.
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> Check this link http://www.eccouncil.org/cnda.htm and compare it with http://www.eccouncil.org/CEH.htm - Its the same 
> thing. What is the value for existing CEH if they are going to certify some of the candidates as CNDA?
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> Everything is the same. There is no alteration. Its not just money here... If some of us are going to be CEH and some 
> CNDA, wont one destroy the value of the other? They are out to squeeze every last drop of money they can - think about 
> it... To do LPT, you must have attended training. Check their website http://eccouncil.org/lpt/LPT-Course-Outline.htm
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> Look at the cost - 2500 USD and see what you get in return
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> Plaque with your name on it
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> LPT License card
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> Resource CD-ROMS
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> LPT T-shirts
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> LPT caps
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> LPT Certificate
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> LPT Lapel Pin
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> Membership ID
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> The million dollar question - license for what???
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> Why dont we go to archive.org to the wayback machine (as shown in CEH course) and look at EC-Council's site. ECSA / 
> ECSP/ ECAD / LPT / etc have been announced more than a year ago. Why are there no certifications coming out yet?
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> The funniest part is that nobody else claims LPT is prestigious - nor is there an industry demand or recognition. LPT 
> will grant you the license (to do what???). Please mail them and ask what the license stands for?
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