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Re: VOIP: RTP vs SRTP
From: "thefifth" <thefifth () ameritech net>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:25:16 -0500
From my experience using IPSec VPN (and now SSL-VPN) for securing VoIP hasbeen pretty strait forward, for remote soft-clients and site-2-site calls. It secures both the signaling and media traffic. This is assuming that the IPSec environment/concentrators can support QoS - i.e. DiffServ to prioritize and expedite VoIP traffic over HTTP or FTP for example.
On the LAN it gets a little more complicated in that you don't want a bunch of potential bottlenecks (firewalls) creating jitter, latency and delay which can impair overall voice quality. In the LAN VLAN segmentation can help as part of a layered defense, but its not fool proof, i.e. dsniff tools. Therefore the LAN infrastructure needs to be able to detect Arp Spoofing, DHCP server spoofing, etc. while enforcing L2-4 firewall policy at the individual switch port. In this type of LAN infrastructure VLAN segmentatation and policy enforcement can help preserve VoIP quality in the case of broadcast storm or massive traffic flloods via DDoS.
802.1x helps at least authenticate the VoIP hard sets and other devices on the network. It can also help to dynamically assign the device and/or user to the appropriate VLAN. Look for IP Phones that support 802.1x for authentication. It helps.
With SIP in particular there are many different sessions and call states active simultaneously. Also there may be more than just voice in a SIP "call" i.e. video, IM, presence, etc. In a multimedia/VoIP call many ports are opened dynamically which makes firewall rule/policy creation and implementation very difficult. Imagine a VoIP conference call for a simple case.
Finally, NAT - if not done correctly (i.e. SIP-NAT ALG's) will break most conversations.
On the IDS/IPS front remember that VoIP media traffic is relatively small packets which require real-time performance. Inspection of a lot of small packets at a high rate can be very costly on the throughput/performance of the IDS/IPS if they can even identify the traffic at all.
What's getting popular right now are Application Layer Gateways/Firewalls for multimedia. They've been available in the VoIP/ISP space for a little while now and are now coming to the enterprise space. Most will provide encryption, NAT capability, and "Pin-Hole" firewall capabilities based on the session and call state. I've seen them from Sipera (www.sipera.com) and Nortel (www.nortel.com).
At the end of the day a layered defense is your best bet, but don't forget about the QoS requirements.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Kousky" <kkousky () ip3inc com> To: "'Chris Serafin'" <chris () chrisserafin com>; <defragz () hotmail com>; <pen-test () securityfocus com>
Cc: "Mike Brown" <MBrown () ip3inc com> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 12:14 PM Subject: RE: VOIP: RTP vs SRTP
There's no question that VoIP Security is a BIG issue. Most managementsurveys say that it's the first or second reason given for why companies aredelaying on VoIP. VoIPSA is certainly a resource, as NIST. They publish a free report (it'sreally a 100 page book) on Securing VoIP and it's probably the best guide in the industry. It's also a great VoIP primer and best of all, you've alreadypaid for it in your tax dollars so you can download it at no cost. (The administration has not reclassified it as top secret yet) It's at: http://www.csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-58/SP800-58-final.pdfThe most important lessons here are the recommendations to avoid soft phones and to segment VoIP on a VLAN will prevent many of the desired voip benefitsso the security frameworks don't map to reality.If you'd like to present your work in this field or just learn a more aboutVoIP security join us at the Second Annual Voip Security Conference hosted by IP3 and Illinois Institute of Technology: Call for Speakers and Sponsors The 2nd Annual Managing VoIP Security Conference (MVSC 2006) May 17-18, 2006 IIT- Illinois Institute of Technology Herman Union Building- Conference Center Chicago, Illinois, USA www.voip-wifi.net or visit: www.ip3seminars.com/conf.htm -----Original Message----- From: Chris Serafin [mailto:chris () chrisserafin com] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:55 AM To: defragz () hotmail com; pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: RE: VOIP: RTP vs SRTP I have been thinking of writing a paper about a VoIP security also. I myexperience [solely Cisco voip] there is absolutely no security in place forany VoIP. Chris Serafin IT Security / VoIP Engineer chris () chrisserafin com -----Original Message----- From: defragz () hotmail com [mailto:defragz () hotmail com] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:23 AM To: pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: VOIP: RTP vs SRTP Hello list, Planning some internal presentations on VoIP, I was wondering if SRTP(Secure Real Time Protocol) is now really in use, as a secure replacement ofRTP. More generally, from your experience, and from what you have seen in "real life", do you thing that VoIP security is getting better? Do people use crypto to protect both data and signalling? I will love to hear your feedbacks... -Franck ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Concerned about Web Application Security? As attacks through web applications continue to rise, you need to proactively protect your applications from hackers. Cenzic has the most comprehensive solutions to meet your application security penetration testing and vulnerability management needs. You have an option to go with a managedservice (Cenzic ClickToSecure) or an enterprise software (Cenzic Hailstorm).Download FREE whitepaper on how a managed service can help you: http://www.cenzic.com/news_events/wpappsec.php And, now for a limited time we can do a FREE audit for you to confirm your results from other product. Contact us at request () cenzic com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Concerned about Web Application Security? As attacks through web applications continue to rise, you need to proactively protect your applications from hackers. Cenzic has the most comprehensive solutions to meet your application security penetration testing and vulnerability management needs. You have an option to go with a managedservice (Cenzic ClickToSecure) or an enterprise software (Cenzic Hailstorm).Download FREE whitepaper on how a managed service can help you: http://www.cenzic.com/news_events/wpappsec.php And, now for a limited time we can do a FREE audit for you to confirm your results from other product. Contact us at request () cenzic com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Concerned about Web Application Security?As attacks through web applications continue to rise, you need to proactivelyprotect your applications from hackers. Cenzic has the most comprehensive solutions to meet your application security penetration testing and vulnerability management needs. You have an option to go with a managedservice (Cenzic ClickToSecure) or an enterprise software (Cenzic Hailstorm).Download FREE whitepaper on how a managed service can help you: http://www.cenzic.com/news_events/wpappsec.php And, now for a limited time we can do a FREE audit for you to confirm your results from other product. Contact us at request () cenzic com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- VOIP: RTP vs SRTP defragz (Mar 10)
- Re: VOIP: RTP vs SRTP Sebastien Tricaud (Mar 10)
- RE: VOIP: RTP vs SRTP Chris Serafin (Mar 10)
- RE: VOIP: RTP vs SRTP Robb Stacy (Mar 10)
- RE: VOIP: RTP vs SRTP Ken Kousky (Mar 12)
- Re: VOIP: RTP vs SRTP thefifth (Mar 16)
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- RE: VOIP: RTP vs SRTP Noble, Kevin (Com US) (Mar 10)
- RE: VOIP: RTP vs SRTP Bob Bell (rtbell) (Mar 10)