RE: Covert Microphone Application

["Craig Wright" <cwright () bdosyd com au>]

Why should we assume this?

I can have a PC "listen" and record without a network. Again, nothing of how the host is configured is being asked. 
Nothing on the OS, the apps etc.

Next you are stating that as a trusted sys admin you can break an organisations security. Wow, good for you.

Without a network there is IR. Possibly the host has bluetooth. Maybe the network is off, but it has a built in 
wireless card. One of the key requirements of a good Security person is that they ASK QUESTIONS.

Craig

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From: Mike Kuriger [mailto:m () wb com]
Sent: Sat 29/07/2006 3:40 AM
To: Craig Wright
Cc: Matt Burnett; shiri_yacov () yahoo com; pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Covert Microphone Application



The whole point of the challenge is that the employee told his boss that
a hacker could get into the laptop and spy on meetings.  We should
assume that the laptop is on the network, and that the challenge
requires making the recording from a remote location.  Anyone can plant
a bug, but the employee is making a case that there already is a bug in
place (the laptop)

~Mike~

Craig Wright wrote:

> How about not all making assumptions on how the machine is configured
> etc.
>
> No body has asked if the machine is networked- you are all making an
> assumption that may be invalid. What O/S is the host running.
> Statistically the likelihood is XP not Linux. Thus telnet is likely
> disabled.
>
> Even if it is XP, is Remote admin/desktop enabled or disabled by policy.
> Is the host on a domain etc etc etc.
>
> Ask some questions, don't make assumptions.
>
>
> Craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Burnett [mailto:marukka () mac com]
>
> Sent: Friday, 28 July 2006 1:58 AM
> To: shiri_yacov () yahoo com
> Cc: pen-test () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: Covert Microphone Application
>
> Wouldnt it just be a lot easier for you or your boss to disconnect
>
> the microphone cable than going though some elaborate scheme to prove
>
> it could possibly be done? If they can "ruled" any laptop at will
>
> then couldnt they also get into your mail servers? Wouldnt anything
>
> that would be discussed in your meeting generate followups in a email?
>
> On Jul 26, 2006, at 4:55 AM, shiri_yacov () yahoo com wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have recently entered with my boss to our corp. conference room
> >  
>
>
>
> > to discover a new (shining) internet laptop on a side desk in the
> >  
>
>
>
> > room.
> >
> > During our chat I mentioned that the laptop has a builtin
> >  
>
>
>
> > microphone and therefore enables covert eavsdropping in case the
> >  
>
>
>
> > laptop is "ruled" from remote position, and therefore, a conference
> >  
>
>
>
> > room PC should have no builtin mic.
> >
> > My sceptic boss replied instantly - "I challange you, bring me a
> >  
>
>
>
> > recording of any meeting - I`ll replace the laptop, and you`ll receive
> >
> > it."
> >
> >
> > I therefore need a small covert application (no need in process
> >  
>
>
>
> > hiding), which will record microphone input to file. command line
> >  
>
>
>
> > application is perfect.
> >
> >
> > Do any of you know any ?
> >
> >
> > Guys, I gotta have this laptop...
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shiri
> >
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