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RE: RE: CISSP
From: "Bates, Chris" <Chris.Bates () nwdc net>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 08:01:16 -0800
I would disagree with the below statement. "Without education you pretty much have no basis to start, everything becomes grey." A person with years of in the field experience will have a very valid "basis to start". I would argue they will have a much more valid basis the a person with just a BS degree. But I also think certification by itself means next to nothing for the most part. I have seen way to many Consultants with certifications and degrees not know their head from a hole in the ground. YMMV, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Bates Infrastructure Management Consultant ACS Inc. (Enterprise Services; NWSC) Chris.Bates () nwdc net -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of mr.nasty () ix netcom com Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:36 AM To: pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: Re: RE: CISSP Sorry for two replies but I can't help myself, it's Monday and the triple espresso just kicked in. As a degree holder and board member of a local chapter working with a local university to provide them with guidance towards a BS degree concentration towards a CISSP I sort of feel your pain. In my youth I worked with a Vetranairan for two years in the surgery room doing your basic spay and nudder. I assisted with hundreds. But I could never perform one myself because I didn't have the education. Without education you pretty much have no basis to start, everything becomes grey. You then have people who want to become certified because they've watched all the episodes of CSI so now they want to become certified forensic experts. Where do you draw the line. Education draws a very clear line. It's not to say that everyone who has a BS is educated or intelligent. Look at our President. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Need to secure your web apps? Cenzic Hailstorm finds vulnerabilities fast. Click the link to buy it, try it or download Hailstorm for FREE. http://www.cenzic.com/products_services/download_hailstorm.php?camp=7016 00000008bOW ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Need to secure your web apps? Cenzic Hailstorm finds vulnerabilities fast. Click the link to buy it, try it or download Hailstorm for FREE. http://www.cenzic.com/products_services/download_hailstorm.php?camp=701600000008bOW ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current thread:
- RE: Re: CISSP, (continued)
- Re: Re: CISSP R. DuFresne (Dec 19)
- RE: Re: CISSP Mueller, Daniel (NMCI CIRT) (Dec 20)
- RE: CISSP Craig Wright (Dec 04)
- Re: RE: CISSP mr . nasty (Dec 04)
- Re: RE: CISSP Tim Shea (Dec 05)