Re: pentest physical security

[intel96 <intel96 () bellsouth net>]

Mervyn,

You are off point here with the topic, which is physical security
pentesting.  So I will provide you some insight into the article you
suggested. 

Using USB flash drives to circumvent logical security is a new twist to
an old game.  The old game was to use a CD marked with something like
"confidential  -  companyname finances" loaded with Trojan software. 
This attack vector worked all the time. 

A better attack is sending someone a repackaged commercial piece of
software with a custom Trojan.  This attack is targeted based on the
role of the person at the company.  Examples include sending a finance
person a new update to Quickbooks or an engineer a  copy of AutoCad. 
This attack vector worked all the time. 

Another twist that also works is sending a new piece of hardware (e.g.
switch, router, server, etc.) to a company that has been physical
modified to assist you gaining access to the network after it has been
installed. 

These latter attacks cost money, but are used to today to gain access to
corporations. 

Ok, now lets get back on point with physical security.




Mervyn Heng wrote:
> You don't even need physical access. This article shows why.
> http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=95556&WT.svl=column1_1
> <http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=95556&WT.svl=column1_1>
>
> On 8/25/06, *intel96* <intel96 () bellsouth net
> <mailto:intel96 () bellsouth net>> wrote:
>
>     Posing as a cleaning person allows you to obtain unrestricted access
>     into some sensitive locations (e.g. CxO offices).  The trash makes a
>     great place to hide disk duplication equipment, hardware keystroke
>     loggers and other equipment. The disk duplication equipment allows
>     you
>     to copy the laptop and desktop hard drives without stealing
>     them.   The
>     keystroke loggers allow you to obtain passwords for encrypted
>     files and
>     other applications.
>
>     Posing as HVAC personnel also works.
>
>     The cleaning crews can expose MAJOR gaps in an organization security
>     posture as noted below:
>
>     I once provided a FREE physical security inspection and a
>     vulnerability
>     assessment to a Fortune 500 telecommunications firm (requirement for
>     Masters Degrees).  Part of my assessment was to questioned the
>     cleaning
>     company that provided services to this telecommunications firm.  The
>     cleaning company did verify anything about their workers and most
>     were
>     from Asia countries (mostly Korea and China).  These workers had
>     unrestricted access into development areas for new products (e.g.
>     cellular, networking, etc.).
>
>     When I provided my final report to the company nothing changed.  I
>     know
>     this because I worked at this company for a year after the report and
>     caught several cleaning people in restricted areas looking at project
>     information.  When asked what they were doing they stated that
>     they did
>     not understand English and hurried away...............
>
>
>
>     JJacoby wrote:
>     > My experience has been that there are two groups that have
>     nearly unfettered
>     > and unescorted access to all spaces: private security guards,
>     and the
>     > cleaning crew.  Both are poorly paid and on the bottom of the
>     social scale,
>     > so employees don't want to be seen having any contact with
>     them.  Duplicate
>     > their appearance and you will be shunned.
>     >
>     > Try to observe the cleaning crew's appearance, doors used,
>     etc.  Cleaning
>     > crews leave doors open / unlocked / propped all the time.  They
>     work after
>     > hours, so there are few (if any) employees around to watch you
>     shove laptops
>     > into your trash bin.
>     >
>     > Stonewall
>     >
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Cedric Blancher [mailto:blancher () cartel-securite fr
>     <mailto:blancher () cartel-securite fr> ]
>     > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:28 AM
>     > To: scott
>     > Cc: pen-test () securityfocus com <mailto:pen-test () securityfocus com>
>     > Subject: Re: pentest physical security
>     >
>     > Le lundi 31 juillet 2006 à 00:49 -0400, scott a écrit :
>     >
>     >> Okay,I've been contacted about pentesting physical security
>     system for
>     >> a  medium size company that is integrating IT & physical
>     >> security,ie;cameras,id gates,etc.
>     >> I'm not exactly sure where to start,other than the
>     >> obvious;passwords,permissions,etc.
>     >>
>     >
>     > Maybe some clue here:
>     >
>     >
>     http://recon.cx/en/f/sconheady-social-engineering-for-pen-testers.pdf
>     <http://recon.cx/en/f/sconheady-social-engineering-for-pen-testers.pdf>
>     >
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