Re: Password secured using???

["Art Cooper" <acooper () pop innerwall com>]

The ONLY good way to do these is with Cain & Abel and a HUGE rainbow dictionar
(ies)

Best Regards,
Coop

Arthur B. Cooper Jr. "Coop"
Senior Network Engineer
Innerwall, Inc.
http://www.innerwall.com
acooper () innerwall com


On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:43:01 -0500, Phil Frederick wrote
> On 4/24/06, Robert J. Kraus <rkraus () telcomtex net> wrote:
> > To me it does look like a hash of some sort. Now that you have the known
> > password and the hash you can take that information and reverse engineer
> > the hashed answer.
> >
> > I am curious to see how they hashed it and what algorithm they used.
> > Once you have the hashing algorithm you can use that to unencrypt any
> > passwords in the file.
>
> Hashes are one way functions.  You cannot work backward (or even
> reverse engineer - what would be the point?) from a hash and 
> "decrypt" password.  Even if the the hashing algorithm is MD5, SHA-
> 0/SHA-1
> (which have been shown to have collision weaknesses), finding a 
> collision is unlikely.  Reverse engineering is really not the answer
> (sort of).
>
> The most likely course would be to use a rainbow table or a 
> dictionary attack.  Use the known password and generate hashes using 
> the different algorithms (MD5, SHA-0, SHA-1, TIGER, etc).  When you 
> find a match with the stored hash, you know the algorithm in use.  
> Then all that is needed is start slamming a dictionary against the 
> rest of the hashes, try some brute force variants.  It gets a little 
> more difficult if it turns out they are using a salt to XOR the password
> before the hash.  Sometimes you can discover the salt by tracing the
> program execution in a debugger - but it's a real pain.
>
> I would also take images of the machine's memory.  You would be
> surprised how many plaintext information floats around there.  In my
> work I have found a few systems that use strong hashing/encryption
> algorithms vulnerable due to poor protocol implementation.
>
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