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FW: DNS ACL ?


From: "Dario Ciccarone (dciccaro)" <dciccaro () cisco com>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 03:06:58 -0500

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dario Ciccarone (dciccaro) 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:26 AM
To: John Hally; pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: DNS ACL ?

Yup.

RFC-1035 specifies that DNS queries should use UDP as transport - and
queries are sent to the DNS server IP address, port 53. If the server
finds that the answer section is > 512 bytes, it should reply with at
most 512 bytes and set the TC bit in the answer. Is up to the host
performing the query to retry it using TCP. Check section '4.2.
Transport' on the RFC.

RFC-2671 ('Extension Mechanisms for DNS (EDNS0)') updates RFC-2671 and
allows for packet sizes > 512 when using UDP as transport. 

A reference from MS: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828263

Some queries that might exceed the 512-byte size are those like, for
example, www.microsoft.com or www.yahoo.com, due to the number of A
records returned.

So, you will probably be OK with only allowing 53/udp to your DNS
server.

Thanks,
Dario



-----Original Message-----
From: John Hally [mailto:JHally () epnet com] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 8:35 AM
To: 'pen-test () securityfocus com'
Subject: DNS ACL ?

Hello All,

 

I need a sanity check regarding DNS ACLs.  For external 
facing DNS servers
you need to allow only udp/53 inbound, correct?  I know 
tcp/53 is used for
zone transfers and requests/replies greater than a certain 
size, but they
shouldn't typically happen for general dns queries correct?  

 

Thanks in advance!



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