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Re: Core Impact references


From: ADT <synfinatic () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:21:58 -0800

Transmission between gateways?  You mean like a router?  tcpreplay has
supported rewriting IP/MAC addresses to allow for forwarding through a
router or proxy-arp device for well over a year now.  True, it doesn't
support NAT gateways unless there is a 1:1 relationship between the
public/private addresses.  Although I can say with near certainty that
nobody has ever asked for that feature either.

"Guaranteed packet delivery" is impossible.  Resending a dropped
packet doesn't mean it will get through if that packet was dropped
intentionally by an inline device such as a firewall or IPS.
You can accomplish "best effort" and resend dropped packets, but
sooner or later you have to give up or fall into an infinate loop.

Either way, as I said earlier, I don't see tcpreplay or Traffic IQ
being really useful here.  Neither is appropriate for replaying
traffic generated by a security tool such as CoreImpact since you
can't use either to actually connect to a remote service or provide
any means to interpret the results other then a tedious manual
process.   Or did I miss that update? :)

On 11/12/05, Sam Johnson <sjohnson () karalon com> wrote:
Excellent news.  When did TCP Replay support the transmission between
gateways and address translation with guaranteed packet delivery?  I must
have missed that update.

SJ



-----Original Message-----
From: ADT [mailto:synfinatic () gmail com]
Sent: 11 November 2005 19:28
To: pen-test
Subject: Re: Core Impact references

If you're going to go through the effort of capturing/replaying
traffic, you could also use tcpreplay.  While it doesn't have a pretty
gui, it offers basically the same functionality for free.

Honestly though, if you want to actually use CI against a set of
hosts, then neither tcpreplay or Traffic IQ would seem to be up to the
task since they're stateless and unable to establish TCP sessions to a
target (both are designed to test inline firewalls/IPS or passive
devices like IDS).  Flowreplay (part of tcpreplay 3.x) is supposed to
fill that gap, but is still alpha quality at best right now.

On 11/10/05, Tony Haywood <thaywood () karalon com> wrote:
Jason,

Traffic IQ Pro has the ability to set a delay on a per packet or per
traffic
file basis by up to 1 hour in minute, second and millisecond increments.

If you are already using Core Impact but it is not providing this
capability
then you could capture the output and import the captures into Traffic IQ
for replay.


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