RE: RE: CEH exam & hacking exposed

[Wayne Wooley <wayne.wooley () ps net>]

I depends on the student I guess. But yes in my opinion the course is real
introductory level, and out dated. In the first day of class one student
walked out. I made it to the second day before I left. The instructor was
good, he had written several security books on penetration testing and he
even recommended against getting the C|EH cert.

But there was a few in the class that had no security experience what so
ever, and they did benefit some from the class. I would still recommend
against it though, especially if they are using their own money to pay for
it.

Just to clarify how mine was, the Hacking Exposed books covered more
information than the CEH class. And they are beginner level as well.

I have heard good things about the Advanced Ethical Hacking course from
Infosec Institute, but I have not attended it yet. Here is the link
http://www.infosecinstitute.com/courses/advanced_ethical_hacking_training.ht
ml
The guy that gives the course wrote the Shell coders handbook, which was a
really good read.



-----Original Message-----
From: Louie [mailto:tech.louie () verizon net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 12:32 PM
To: Wayne Wooley; Guillaume Lavoix; pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: RE: CEH exam & hacking exposed

What do you mean it was a waste of time. Don't tell me its the basic on
networking and computers?
> From: Wayne Wooley <wayne.wooley () ps net>
> Date: 2004/11/22 Mon PM 04:34:50 CST
> To: tech.louie () verizon net,  Guillaume Lavoix <glavoix () altadis com>, 
>    pen-test () securityfocus com
> Subject: RE: CEH exam & hacking exposed
>
> It's a waste of money. My company sent me to the CEH course, and I got 
> my money back after spending a day and half in the class.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Louie [mailto:tech.louie () verizon net]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:35 PM
> To: Guillaume Lavoix; pen-test () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: CEH exam & hacking exposed
>
> Well see also would like to know this question answered... I'm also 
> looking to get my CEH  .... plus what other material should we study? 
> I know in fact that if you take the training course in CEH  you get pdf
and other material.
> Would anyone that took this CEH course would you be able to share the 
> material with use?
>
>
> Louie
>
>
> > From: Guillaume Lavoix <glavoix () altadis com>
> > Date: 2004/11/22 Mon AM 08:55:02 CST
> > To: pen-test () securityfocus com
> > Subject: CEH exam & hacking exposed
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Anybody can tell me if using the hacking exposed book is enough in 
> > order to Take & pass the CEH certification ?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Guillaume