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RE: TS/3389 risk on Internet


From: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:18:49 -0600

 I agree with everyone that thinks having exposed TS on the internet
isn't worth it. It looks like a very bad security move. It is
information leakage having services exposed like that...plus man in the
middle...brute force will happen...for a company, you have to reduce the
number of system exposed to the internet and the roles of those systems.
Put a webserver on the outside...and it doesn't do anything but serve
pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: Davide Carnevali [mailto:davide () protechta it] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:56 AM
To: net sec
Cc: pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: TS/3389 risk on Internet

IMHO it is not a problem related to clear text or encrypted 
authentication.
TS is a very powerful yet dangerous service...it gives you 
total control over the machine...
Username/Password is a weak authentication method ...i could "guess" 
them or i can "ask" for them through social engineering .....
At leat you should implement a strong authentication method 
such as OTP.

And what about new vulnerability in TS that will be 
discovered tomorrow?
... better to use TS over a VPN using digital certificates...

Annibal!

net sec wrote:
I have a peer that insists on allowing public access to his Domain 
controller via TS/tcp 3389 over the internet.  I know there 
are some 
documented cases of 'man-in-the-middle' attacks for this 
service but I 
was hoping someone here could help me plead my case as to 
why this is 
a bad idea.  Maybe you all disagree and regurlary allow 
this traffic.  
It just doesn't sit well with me.  Does anyone know if the 
login/password is sent in clear text for TS authentication?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts,
Nicole

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