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RE: setting up security research lab


From: Irvin Temp <znah_irvin () yahoo com>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 00:43:21 -0800 (PST)


VMWARE, Would definitely help in limiting the budget 
for the hardware. Speaking of hardware, Solaris 
machines and some routers/switches, wi-fi routers and 
gadgets would be eating up a lot of money. What other 
devices do you think would be useful in a security
lab?

Software/Hardware: VMware will be your best friend
when it comes to saving
resources on software for OS systems. Applications
will be a cost center as
well as they will be expensive to obtain legally. 


Im also thinking of old machines to run some linux
and BSDs. The lab would be some kind of a war room.
Their would be some ATTACK machines, DEFENSE machines,
and some TARGET MAGHCINES. The biggest challenge would
be to simulate a real world setup. 


Skills: Security centric individuals with security
research and exploit
testing background. Typically you will have
individuals more specialized in
Windows or Unix platforms and sometimes individuals
with both. 
TRUE. It would be nice to have the right personnel 
skills on the team. I think they would make the most 
substantial impact in determining the success or 
failure mileage. 

Constant training of personnel would be important to 
increase their comfort level. OSSTMM, OWASP,CEH, and 
what else? How to enhance your teams skills in doing 
security research? what kind of training should they 
take? It would be better to focus on developing the 
right attitude(invetigation/forensic skills,problem 
solving, analytical) than focusing on a particular 
technique. 

How to get the most realistic hacking/auditing
scenario
or environment for them to gain the appropriate 
experience? the more realistic the test environment
the
better.

Biggest challenge with setting up a lab is getting
the appropriate resources
(people) and having adequate os and apps for testing
all versions that a
vulnerability could apply to. 

Finding the right projects for research and 
development that would provide them a good feel of 
security and hacking in general. 

Agree. Learn things by doing. 
It would be more of a
grow as you go scenario.

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