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Re: FTP Window of opportunity?


From: Josh Tolley <josh () raintreeinc com>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:54:10 -0800

The first thing to do is turn on tcpdump/windump/ethereal/your-favorite-sniffer and see what exactly happened. Your computer sent a SYN packet... did you ever get the SYN/ACK back? If not, ISS probably meant "Connecting..." when they said "Connected..." because that's what it was really doing. If you *did* get a SYN/ACK back, things could be really interesting. Most likely, though, you didn't ever get a SYN/ACK packet, and ISS was just lying to you when it said "Connected..."

Josh

C Ryll wrote:

I recently assessed a system in which I already know its configuration (and have full legal rights to). FTP is purposefully not running, as well as blocked by the firewall. When I scan with ISS, the FTP port shows up. When I use NMap, it does not show FTP's port. Because of the discrepancy, I tried to manually FTP into the system. It actually said "Connected...", hung for about 10 seconds, and then said "Connection Terminated." (As a baseline, telnet's port is also blocked by the firewall, and does not show up in scans - essentially, results for telnet are as expected).

With ISS, I'm assuming that it saw "Connected..." and showed me that port. My guess would be that NMap waited around to try something else, but saw "Connection Terminated" and didn't list it.

However, as I said previously, seeing that it actually says "Connected", and then hangs for about 10 seconds before terminating:
1). Can I use this behavior to my advantage somehow? If yes, how?
2). Is there a known explanation to this?

The firewall is the Internet Connection firewall, and I am curious if it requires the ftp port inadvertently for its functioning when checking the incoming packets...

While I can make some changes to the system (like shutting off certain services and shutting off the firewall), I cannot modify it such that I can try another firewall or anything else like that.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Carolyn.

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