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Re: Concurrent Sessions and User Feedback


From: "Chris Saulnier" <chris.saulnier () ns sympatico ca>
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 19:18:59 -0300

I'm new here, and also inexperienced, so I'm not sure how good these ideas
would be in practice. If this is for a application where only certain people
will have accounts, not a public app where anyone can sign up, then you
could do the following:

If it's a successful login, but the account is locked-out, currently logged
in or if the username and password don't exist, give an error saying please
check your company email, a message has been delivered to you. In which it
will detail the problem with their account, if the account actually existed.
If it is a public application then you could just give an un-helpful message
like there was an error logging in, please contact the admin if you believe
this login should of worked.

Chris Saulnier
http://paladindesign.net



----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Olson" <olson.susan () excite com>
To: <pen-test () securityfocus com>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: Concurrent Sessions and User Feedback



I'm looking for words of wisdom/advice/ideas on how to handle this from a
security/"best practices" perspective.

Basically, I am evaluating a web application that disallows concurrent
sessions; it only allows for one unique logon session to occur at the same
time using just one username/password combination.

My question.what is the best way to handle "feedback" for users attempting
to access an account that is already logged-on?  Currently, users get a
message stating that the account that they are attempting to use is already
logged-on.  I am not comfortable with this because it lends to the possible
harvesting of valid UserIDs & Passwords by an "evil doer."  Also, I have a
similar issue with the "feedback" given to users when an account is locked
out."Your account is currently locked out, please contact an administrator"
in that I only get this message when I have entered a valid User ID &
Password for an account that is locked out - seems to facilitate harvesting
as well.

If anyone could provide me with some ideas/strategies, etc. on how to
implement this securely I would greatly appreciate it!

- Sue




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