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Re: best tool to draw attack trees ??
From: "Bill Pennington" <billp () boarder org>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:00:38 -0800
The OWASP project (http://www.owasp.org) is planning on building attack trees for web application threats in UML I believe. XML could be an option as well. You would still need to find the best way to display it but XML gives you a bit more flexibility IMHO. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kruse, Darren (DEH)" <Kruse.Darren2 () saugov sa gov au> To: <pen-test () securityfocus com> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:00 PM Subject: best tool to draw attack trees ??
I'm puzzling over what is the best way to draw attack trees. Attack trees provide a formal, methodical way of describing the security
of
systems, based on varying attacks. Basically, you represent attacks
against
a system in a tree structure, with the goal as the root node and different ways of achieving that goal as leaf nodes. Bruce Schnier's Secrets and Lies - Digital Security in a Networked World
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471253111/qid=1016671800/sr=8-1/ref=
sr_8_67_1/002-8209990-0206427 , in particular chapter 21 covers Attack
Trees
There's also a DDJ article on attack trees http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=896/ddj9912a/9912a.htm (also by Bruce Schnier) that covers virtually the same ground as the book. I'm thinking that it would make a really good motivational tool for management to see what all the threats are against our systems. Having a documented attack tree would also help me in identifying what
holes
,and threats I need to worry about RIGHT NOW ! My first thought was to wade in, and start drawing with Visio - making use of the layers feature to distinguish between different sets of values.. Possible / Impossible Cost script kiddie tool released ? etc.. But does anyone know of a more "closely-suited" tool than Visio ? I've
done
a google search on "attack tree" software, and come up blank. There are cheaper alternatives to Visio - maybe Kivio mp http://www.thekompany.com/products/kivio/faq.php3 ?? Unfortunately, the
KDE
version (Kivio without the mp suffix) doesn't do layers. :-( Would a web interface be better ? - certainly for navigating between threats, but how about when you want to see a larger part of the tree ? ,
or
the whole attack tree ?? Maybe MS Project ? - it's good at showing inter-related tasks , that have dependancies and costs, and can output to HTML as well. How about when I want to add , or share bits of someone else's attack tree
?
It would be cool to be able to download discrete sub-branches, just like
you
download additional Snort IDS signatures. Darren Kruse CCNP CCDP WAN/LAN Networking Consultant Mobile : (+61) 0407 446 399 mailto://darren_kruse () hotmail com http://www.geocities.com/darren_kruse --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: best tool to draw attack trees ?? Bill Pennington (Mar 22)
- RE: best tool to draw attack trees ?? Adonis.No.Spam (Mar 22)
- Re: best tool to draw attack trees ?? Dug Song (Mar 23)
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