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RE: Blind IP spoofing portscan tool?


From: Yonatan Bokovza <Yonatan () xpert com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:13:26 +0300

For the fast readers, two introductions to this
subject are at:
http://www.securiteam.com/securitynews/A_new_stealth_port_scanning_method.ht
ml 
and at:
http://www.sans.org/infosecFAQ/audit/hping2.htm
They both refer to hping:
http://www.kyuzz.org/antirez/hping.html

and I remember at least one tool that's designed
to do exactly that scan:
http://packetstorm.securify.com/UNIX/scanners/6thSense.tgz

IP_ID is a field in the IP packet header that is meant
to be different for every fragment of packet, thereby
helping the reciever to defrag a fragmented packet.

Most OSs just increment it for every outgoing packet.
OpenBSD, of course, randomize that. Linux kernel
2.4 (IIRC) use IP_ID of zero whenever the packet doesn't
need fragmentation and sets the DF flag on. So if
fragmentation is needed an
ICMP_FragNeededButDon'tFragBitWasSet is
received and the packet is resent, fragmented.
FreeBSD has a patch, here:
http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/ipid.patch . I
don't know if it's committed yet, or ever will be.
Windows has (yet again) a peculiarity, it uses a
different byte ordering for the IP_ID, so you can
use that as another method to identify Windows.
Regarding other OSs, you'r welcome to enlighten me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Wilson [mailto:netw3 () netw3 com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 00:05
To: pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Blind IP spoofing portscan tool?


In the mailing for the Black Hat briefings, there is 
mention of a "blind IP spoofing portscan tool" or 
something along those lines. I'm curious about this 
tool, what is it's name and what is the mechanism by 
which it works? I'd guess that it's something involving 
other elements of the IP stack or some tool that uses 
a 3rd party system to check IP ID's, sequence 
numbers, ICMP responses or something along those 
lines.

I'd be interested to know more information, please 
share if you have this knowledge.

PS - I'm moving to Chicago soon and looking for a 
good security job, anyone got any leads?

Curt Wilson
netw3 () netw3 com



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