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Re: [PEN-TEST] Certification
From: Sean Duffy <Sean.Duffy () TAS ALCATEL CA>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:10:33 -0400
I agree certification does not mean people have several years of experience. Take the MCSE for example. For a while our company would only hire MCSE's. At one point 3 were brought in to solve a staffing problem on contract. One survived only a few weeks, before getting booted, one was hired for the job, and the third was let go when the second one was hired. I think today too many people graduate with crtifications that are only in therory. I have also talked to Headhunters that don't feel qualified people don't necessarily need things such as MCSE to get good jobs. I think I read one e-mail in the last couple of days (I can't remember off which Security Focus mailing list, I think it might have been this one - I subscribe to several) where you have to have a few years experince in the field before they will let you write the exam plus several years of other relevant exprienceas well. Certification is a money making scheme. If you are good at writing tests, then you might have several certifications that you really don't deserve just my 0.02 worth Sean Duffy Eric Lauzon <elauzon () ITEMUS CO To: PEN-TEST () SECURITYFOCUS COM M> cc: Sent by: Subject: Certification Penetration Testers <PEN-TEST@SECURITY FOCUS.COM> 09/12/00 01:46 PM Please respond to Penetration Testers -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I reallt dont think that the certification that people take is really a reflect of their knowledge i mean why is there certification.. cause there is people that want to make money out of it. Certification should be issued by a non profit organisation that would really take time and build test that test the users and it not related to $$$ witch is one of the reasons why the industrie right now is divided betwen people that know what they do and other people that think they know cause they where tought and are certified. No all certified people are certified for money but alot and ALOT of them are cause they could do the same job whitout being certified but by being certified they can just make the big bucks..anyhow that was my less than 2 penny opinion. Eric Lauzon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.3 iQA/AwUBOb6Q7KIpv/xAG6RUEQKKdgCdH4b/wyzu5cey9RngGx0YUSUyPSEAoI+/ +yiqQdGPJPkrXLOKs3ntzi7K =wjOW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Current thread:
- [PEN-TEST] Certification Eric Lauzon (Sep 12)
- Re: [PEN-TEST] Certification Drew Simonis (Sep 12)
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- Re: [PEN-TEST] Certification Sean Duffy (Sep 12)