Re: [PEN-TEST] Noisy ou stealthy ?

[Iván Arce <core.lists.pentest () CORE-SDI COM>]

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From: "Nicolas Gregoire" <nicolas.gregoire () 7THZONE COM>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 1:19 PM
Subject: [PEN-TEST] Noisy ou stealthy ?


> Hi pen-testers,
>
> just a question about methodology.
>
> When you are doing some pen-tests, do you use the noisy way (full port
> range scan, lot of scanning for cgi whitout IDS evasion techniques,
> brute force attacks on FTP) or the sthealthy one ?

Both.
It all depends on time constraints, who did contract you to
do the pen test and what are the requirements of the customer.

> I think that the noisy way is easiest (just schedule a Nessus scan , a
> whisker scan and an ISS scan for the night, read the results and attack)

Well, generally we have to validate the results of our scans first.
I dont know if this is the case for everyone here but we usually
double check the results of nessus/iss/cybercop/nmap/etc.

I havent seen yet two runs of any of those programs
against a remote network across slow links that outputs exactly
the same results.

-ivan

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