Re: Security Positions Referrals Site - Open for Suggestions

[Josh More <jmore () starmind org>]

The problem with current platforms is that they all focus around what
is most easily searched technology-wise, which forces individuals into
changing their profiles to match the system, rather than the system
serving the individuals.

Forget about technical skills.  If companies want an ArcSight person,
they're going to go Dice or Monster.  Forget about collecting keywords
and referrals.  Companies are using LinkedIn for that.  Dice, Monster
and LinkedIn have won the fight, and you're not going to take market
share from them by competing on their terms.

What I'd like to see is a site that has two components to it. First,
it would be a profile site... specifically a site that allows someone
to create a job profile that is focused on a particular job. This
would allow people to create a portfolio that is focused on the
business's need. You could generate PDFs from it to take to a printing
shop to make the physical portfolio and give interviewers a URL and
password so they can see the complete interactive profile.

Second, I'd like a communication forum/mailing list sort of thing...
ideally both so people can choose their interface. This would allow
people within the community to share ideas on improving the profiles
for specific jobs as well as give referrals and recommendations.  To
me, this is what a community site should do.  All the other sites that
claim to be community sites aren't.  They're connection sites.

I know that this is far from what you asked for, but as I said, you're
not to win playing the same game that everyone else is.

-Josh



On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Mark Bodner <mbodner () itssgroup com> wrote:
> Security Community,
>
> I am looking to get the community's suggestions on which approach you think
> is most effective in designing a job postings site for the IT Security
> community with an intent to allow security professionals to freely list
> their organization's openings in aims to bring in fellow professionals as
> referrals.
>
> I've gone through a few iterations of concepts:
>
> - A site where users can anonymously list and rate their security-specific
> skills and knowledge; organizations would then be able to submit proposals
> to those users with opportunities which users can choose to accept or
> decline, and upon accepting, make the introduction
>
> - A general site, under a high-level domain, with listings, categorized by
> job type such as Pen Testing, GRC, Audit, Architecture, Technology,
> Monitoring, Management. The issue I see with this structure is that it could
> get very disorganized very quickly with myriads of postings. I've got a site
> up on this concept using a software platform and already have a few postings
> at itssgroup.com
>
> - Platform Technology-specific sites, under a collection of
> platform-specific domains,  with listings categorized by Platform such as
> SIEM: RSA enVision, Q1, ArcSight, Splunk;    DLP:  Symantec, RSA, Websense,
> McAfee, etc. I've also got a few domains registered for this, and have a few
> of the jobs replicated, at siemjobs.com.
>
> Please keep in mind that the sites are a work in progress. My goal is not to
> have this turn into another monster.com, and for the infosec professionals,
> be a free resource to use for referral services. Any and all feedback will
> be considered and appreciated, including gripes about current platforms.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
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