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Pictures Taken In Public - With A Twist


From: arch3angel at gmail.com (Robert Miller)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:46:47 -0500

I consulted a well known photographer and he consulted an attorney.

http://photofocus.podomatic.com/
http://photofocus.podomatic.com/player/web/2009-12-15T05_38_18-08_00

I have also reviewed all the case law and laws governing reporters for 
the state of Ohio, all of which match what this Scott Bourne's attorney 
said.

On 12/22/2009 10:07 AM, Tim Mugherini wrote:
That is ridiculous - now, have you consultant an attorney?

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Robert Miller<arch3angel at gmail.com>  wrote:
   
While I know this is going to boil down to it happened in a public place
stop my whining... but this still upsets me and I have no legal recourse WTF

<rant>

A few weeks back my son, 12 years old, was at the local library after
school working on the computer when a local newspaper reporter came in
and took pictures of the people in the library using its services.  The
story was regarding the fact that my county is considering closing some
of the libraries.  Now after the interviews were completed and the
pictures were taken, the reporter told my kid to tell his folks his
picture would be in the paper that coming Sunday.  So as any parent who
gave a flying crap about their kid would pick the paper up to look at
the article.  As said to my son his picture was nice and big with his
first and last name along with a little blurb about why he don't want
the library closed.

At first this really pissed me off since my son is under age and no one
asked for my permission, let alone offer a business card or a means to
contact anything about the article.  After a few days of mumbling, and
some deep investigation I found that I have ZERO legal recourse for this
happening so I rolled with the punch and picked my self up telling my
kid he displayed himself very well and expressed himself in his
statement like a young man should.  Then it hit me...

I was on the local newspapers website and noticed my son's picture in an
article, not written the same as the newspaper itself but still
displaying my son's picture, well now I get concerned and begin to do
some digging on the metadata (thanks larry) to find misc normal data but
nothing too detailed.  Then it smacked me in the face like a truck load
of bricks!  Those (stealing a statement from Jack's comments earlier
just because I can :-) ) "... monkey sodomizing rat bastards..." have my
son's picture posted on the website for sale.  They are selling my son's
picture for profit, WHAT IN<many fool words omitted for John's safety>
gives these people the right to make a profit off my 12 year old son!

Well I had sent an email to a well known photographer regarding this and
he consulted his lawyer only to find these newspaper organizations can
take the pictures of children and then sell them on their website as
"fine art", while I love my kid to death he is far from "fine art".  The
response this person got from their attorney was that unless a local law
prohibits the taking of children pictures in public places and selling
them I have no leg to stand on, which I have faced the fact.  It just
burns my butt that a child who knows no better, well didn't at the time,
was exploited to save a library and someone else NOT trying to raise the
money for the library is making a profit off this, no matter how small
that profit might be.  The attorney said if you want privacy don't leave
your home, WHAT THE HELL IS THAT CRAP, he is a child!  Does this mean a
child predator can sit 100 feet from a school and take pictures of
children walking home from school, throw up a website, call themselves a
freelance photographer, and sell these pictures as "fine art".

We can borrow money from China and bail out businesses that made bad
choices but we can protect children from the basic protection of
exploitation for any reason, so long as that reason is a sad story of a
library closing and the newspaper can sell a couple prints.

</rant>

Sorry all this one just really hits me hard that a newspaper /
freelance photographer has all these freedoms to exploit citizens while
we fight to protect so much...

- Robert
arch3angel
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