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Can a sys admin see a gmail account


From: aqabiz at gmail.com (Abdul Qabiz)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:09:10 +0530

I think, one can use tools like ettercap and really do mitm and 
dns-spoofing. I believe, this would only work on switched network?



On 16/12/09 6:40 PM, Michael Douglas wrote:
Perhaps I'm not aware of how google or modern web browsers handle
things... but I thought an admin would be able to mount your C$ share
(yes I know I can't assume everyone's running windows... but come on!)
Once they have access to your HD, it's just a matter of reading the
local cache.

Here's an older BlackHat Briefings talk about this from 2003
www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-usa-03/bh-us-03-akin.pdf  (yes it is a pdf)

The techniques in the above link are far from perfect... sent mail
isn't cached for instance... I need to try this out again.  But I
had... I mean Bob had -- Yeah Bob -- had lots of fun with this a while
back.

- Mick



On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Joel Esler<eslerj at gmail.com>  wrote:
   
Let's assume this.  Is it possible?  Yes.  However, it'd be extremely
difficult and extremely unlikely.  Theoretically, yes, they can see what you
are doing.  But I'd bet not.
J

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Abdul Qabiz<aqabiz at gmail.com>  wrote:
     
You are right, many admins don't have that much time. However, I learnt,
any user on network can actually find out about your cookies, that can
be scary situation.

I would not trust any network, except the one I control.



On 16/12/09 12:23 AM, Michael Miller wrote:
       
I would have to agree.  If I was a "EVIL BOFH" I would use
slidejacking to get into the users session.  One question I'm asking
my self right now is, How much time do the admins have to do this?
Unless it's sanctioned by management.  They would be violating any
number of state&    federal laws, and possibly company policy.  If you
fear you are being investigated at work.  Don't use your work computer
for non-business related communications.

-mmiller

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Abdul Qabiz<aqabiz at gmail.com>    wrote:

         
What I have learnt, if you are on switched network, one can play MITM
attack
or dns spoofing, to get the GX cookies.

That's all you need, GX cookies. One can use GX cookies to login into
your
gmail account.


On 15/12/09 2:00 AM, Shawn McGovern wrote:

Ok so my question was posted in a forum and someone gave me and answer
but
didnt explain it and then the forum post was when closed on me.  So I
will
ask here for clarity and try not to kill me for this, I am trying to
learn.

So if someone uses a corporate network to check a Gmail (using SSL).
  If
they check to make sure that they have a secure connection -- once
connected
-- and then they check the certificate to see if the cert hierarchy has
been
tampered with.  Everything looks fine.  Are any admin or whomever able
to
see you emails?  Forget about software on the computer you are using,
only
through the network monitoring.

I was told in the forum that they could use a monitoring program like
wireshark to view them.  In the wireshark forum I read that you would
need
the private key to decrypt the messages and in the forum they said that
a
sys admin can get the private key?  Is that information correct?  and
if so
how would they be able to get the private key?


Thanks in advance

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