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Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser
From: Ankeet Presswala <mythic.boost () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:55:51 +0000
Whatever happened to the half-life of vulnerabilities? From https://community.qualys.com/blogs/laws-of-vulnerabilities/2015/01/27/the-ghost-vulnerability : "Where can I download the exploit? We want to give everyone enough time to patch. According to our data once the vulnerability has reached its half-life we will release the exploit. Half-life is the time interval measuring a reduction of a vulnerability’s occurrence by half. Over time, this metric shows how successful efforts have been to eradicate vulnerability. A shorter half-life indicates faster remediation. Half-life was originally coined by Qualys in the Laws of Vulnerability." On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:53 AM mancha <mancha1 () zoho com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Brandon Perry wrote:Prefer the term coordinated disclosure. Sent from a phoneOn Jul 24, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mancha <mancha1 () zoho com> wrote:On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 08:43:43PM +0200, Leif Nixon wrote: Qualys Security Advisory <qsa () qualys com> writes:Hello, it is July 23, 2015, 17:00 UTC, the Coordinated Release Date for CVE-2015-3245 and CVE-2015-3246. Please find our advisory below, and our exploit attached.*Why* are you releasing a full exploit just minutes after the patch is released? (Disclosure: I am employed by Red Hat, but this is my purely personal question.) -- Leif NixonThere was absolutely nothing wrong with Qualys' timing. When the embargo ends, it ends. The real problem is the underlying model: "responsible disclosure". It's nothing more than a CYA strategy that doesn't maximize the ecosystem's welfare. The positive-sounding name fools some into thinking it a good thing. --manchaAgreed. Coordinated disclosure is much more precise. Also, it's judgment-free unlike the loaded term "responsible disclosure" that implies alternative disclosure models like full disclosure are irresponsible. --mancha
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- Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser, (continued)
- Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser Leif Nixon (Jul 24)
- Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser Brad Knowles (Jul 24)
- Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser Leif Nixon (Jul 25)
- Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser Michal Zalewski (Jul 25)
- Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser Dave Horsfall (Jul 25)
- Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser Brad Knowles (Jul 25)
- Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser Hanno Böck (Jul 26)
- Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser Brandon Perry (Jul 24)
- Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser mancha (Jul 27)
- Re: Qualys Security Advisory - CVE-2015-3245 userhelper - CVE-2015-3246 libuser Ankeet Presswala (Jul 27)