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Re: Plug-and-wipe and Secure Boot semantics
From: Greg KH <greg () kroah com>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:39:59 -0800
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 03:52:50PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
On 12/18/2012 03:41 PM, Greg KH wrote:On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 01:46:47PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:Some UEFI machines seem to boot from USB by default, without any prompting, probably assuming that a signed boot loader cannot cause any damage.Specific model name(s) please?Lenovo M72e 0896A9G
Thanks for that, I'll try to track one down, that's a very odd behavior, but, in reading the spec, I can't see how it violates it at all.
This is a business-class Windows 8 machine which comes with a Windows 8 logo sticker, so Secure Boot was enabled in the factory (and my testing reflected that). I'm not sure if the type number encodes that—Lenovo surely offers essentially the same hardware with Secure Boot disabled by default, so that customers can install Windows 7 more easily.Most signed Linux boot loaders only verify the kernel (and, indirectly, code that's loaded into the kernel), but not the initrd contents.Given that there is only one public signed Linux boot loader, saying "most" is a bit odd here :)Uhm, aren't there a couple of them in circulation?
Not that I know of, all of the "public" ones are based on Matthew Gerritt's code, do you know of another one that has made it through the Microsoft signing process?
The Fedora 18 TC3 installer boots on the machine mentioned above, in the factory default configuration. Previous installer versions showed a Secure Boot error message. I've run into an installer bug, though: <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888232>
Previous versions of Fedora 18 betas didn't have a valid signed bootloader to allow anything to be installed, are you sure it's all properly built now? Also, there is a bug in Matthew's signed shim code that fails on some machines (like the one I have), so you might want to work on getting the bugfix into your build/sign/distro creation process. But, more on-topic, how does UEFI secure boot have anything to do with this mailing list? thanks, greg k-h
Current thread:
- Plug-and-wipe and Secure Boot semantics Florian Weimer (Dec 18)
- Re: Plug-and-wipe and Secure Boot semantics Greg KH (Dec 18)
- Re: Plug-and-wipe and Secure Boot semantics Florian Weimer (Dec 18)
- Re: Plug-and-wipe and Secure Boot semantics Greg KH (Dec 18)
- Re: Plug-and-wipe and Secure Boot semantics Florian Weimer (Dec 19)
- Re: Plug-and-wipe and Secure Boot semantics Greg KH (Dec 19)
- Re: Plug-and-wipe and Secure Boot semantics Kurt Seifried (Dec 19)
- Re: Plug-and-wipe and Secure Boot semantics Florian Weimer (Dec 18)
- Re: Plug-and-wipe and Secure Boot semantics Greg KH (Dec 18)