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Re: [PATCH 1/3] setup_arg_pages: diagnose excessive argument size


From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro () jp fujitsu com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:31:18 +0900 (JST)

I still don't think this addresses the whole problem.  Without question,
the rlimit / 4 check is bogus.  If nobody agrees with the intent of that 
check, then it should be removed, but I think the better solution is to 
fix the check so that it matches its original intent: let the initial 
stack setup be up to 1/Xth of the min(rlimit, TASK_SIZE dependent upon 
personality), which allows space for additional stack setup in the ELF 
loader and then further growth once the process is live.  If that 
amount is overstepped, then the exec will return an error to the calling 
process instead of being terminated.

It might be useful to consult with the people who introduced/approved 
the check in the first place, as they seemed to have reasons for 
implementing it.

Brad, sorry, I have bad news. glibc sysconf(_SC_ARG_MAX) is implemented
by hard coded RLIMIT_STACK/4 heuristics. That said, at least _now_, we
can't change this even though you disliked. That said, we can't break
userland even though userland library is very crazy.

I don't dislike your "1/Xth of the min(rlimit, TASK_SIZE dependent upon 
personality)" idea. however I think You and Roland haven't agreed this
point yet. he seems to want "unlimited" works as "unlimited". then, now
I don't make such patch. Instead, I would propose to insert 
__vm_enough_memory() check in execve() pass. It prevent almost argv attack.




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