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Re: Backward Compatibility Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block


From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:59:45 -0800



On Jan 19, 2024, at 09:21, Charles Polisher <chas () chasmo org> wrote:

Owen DeLong wrote:

Some, but not a lot. In the case of the DTMF transition, the
network and handsets were all under the central control of a
single provider at a time when they could have forced the change
if they really wanted to. After all, nobody was going to cancel
their phone service altogether (or such a small fraction of
subscribers as to count as a rounding error anyway) over the
issue and AT&T could simply have shipped replacement phones
with instructions for returning the older phone and done a
retrofit operation if they really wanted to drive the transition.

True, yet there's a missing piece to that description: ROI.
In the regulated environment with a mandated X% Return On Invest-
ment (X ≈ 15 IIRC) a bigger expense pie was a better pie because
a bigger expense pie meant a bigger return. This was an inexorable
force that influenced every substantive decision. An expanding
rate base was the One True Path to advancing against the demon
competitors: AT&T and other RBOCs.

You’re missing the fact that this particular set of events predates the formation of RBOCS or competitors in general. 
There was AT&T, there was GTE, and there were a handful of other ILECs sprinkled around the country, but each had 100% 
territorial exclusivity and monopoly and AT&T at the time was pretty much the only LD carrier, period.

In the Bell System setting, before and after Divestiture, a
perpetual and costly migration from IPv4 to IPv6 with all the
attendant cost burdens would have been well tolerated, even
welcomed, in the "C Suite" anyways.

Absolutely, I’m actually surprised that the DTMF forced conversion and its attendant cost wasn’t foisted on the 
unsuspecting public, TBH. I really don’t understand how AT&T missed that opportunity. Sure, it would have lowered costs 
long term to a small extent, but the handset replacement process alone would have been a huge cost for several years.

Let’s face it, those old AT&T phones were rock solid and in a pinch you could use one as a forging hammer. ;-)

Owen


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