Re: SOVC - BGp RPKI

["Dominik Dobrowolski \(dodobrow\) via NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>]

I can confirm that the official abbreviation is: Secured Origin Validate Cache

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From: NANOG on behalf of Sofia Silva Berenguer
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 12:15 AM
To: Compton, Rich; Justin H.; NANOG list
Subject: Re: SOVC - BGp RPKI


How polite of it to apologize!!



I asked Bing’s Copilot and it says SOVC stands for “Signed Object Validation Cache” but I wasn’t able to get a source 
for that either ☹



Oh these AI times…



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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+sofia=apnic.net () nanog org> on behalf of Compton, Rich via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Thursday, 1 February 2024 at 9:10 am
To: Justin H. <justindh.ml () gmail com>, NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: SOVC - BGp RPKI

I think it hallucinated.

When asked to site its sources:



“I apologize for the confusion, but my response about "SOVC" in the context of RPKI on Cisco routers was based on 
general knowledge of RPKI and networking principles, not from a specific source. The explanation combined standard 
practices and concepts in network security and routing, especially as they relate to RPKI and BGP.

Since the acronym "SOVC" is not a standard or widely recognized term in the context of RPKI, it's possible that it 
might be specific to certain environments or proprietary to certain Cisco router models or software versions. For the 
most accurate and detailed information, it's always best to consult the official Cisco documentation or support 
resources, especially for terms that might be specific to their products.”



From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rich_compton=comcast.com () nanog org> on behalf of Justin H. <justindh.ml () gmail com>
Date: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 3:06 PM
To: NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: SOVC - BGp RPKI

I'd be curious to know why it thinks that the S is "Stale".  I don't
suppose it cites its sources?

Compton, Rich via NANOG wrote:
> ChatGPT says:
>
> SOVC in the context of RPKI (Resource Public Key Infrastructure) on a
> Cisco router stands for "Stale Origin Validation Cache". RPKI is a
> security framework designed to secure the Internet's routing
> infrastructure, primarily through route origin validation. It ensures
> that the Internet number resources (like IP addresses and AS numbers)
> are used by the legitimate owners or authorized AS (Autonomous System).
>
> In RPKI, Route Origin Authorizations (ROAs) are used to define which
> AS is authorized to announce a specific IP address block. Network
> devices, like Cisco routers, use these ROAs to validate the
> authenticity of BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) route announcements.
>
> The term "stale" in SOVC refers to a situation where the router's
> RPKI-to-Router protocol client has lost its connection to the RPKI
> server, or when the RPKI cache data is outdated and not refreshed for
> some reason. This can happen due to network issues, configuration
> errors, or problems with the RPKI server itself. When the RPKI cache
> is stale, the router cannot reliably validate BGP route announcements
> against the latest ROA data, potentially affecting routing decisions.
>
> In a network security context, maintaining an up-to-date RPKI cache is
> crucial for ensuring that the network only accepts legitimate routing
> announcements, thereby reducing the risk of routing hijacks or
> misconfigurations. As a network security engineer, managing and
> monitoring the RPKI status on routers is an important aspect of
> ensuring network security and integrity.
>
> I see it mentioned in this doc:
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios-xml/ios/iproute_bgp/configuration/15-s/irg-15-s-book/irg-origin-as.pdf__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!EB5iIYDDpnRMSM7Gjvy11sMoEsjEDlXtTpfipi4l735bx04IY-dD73vWGCbiDZvoRR6kTse35whqa8dH1cN_Ya9j$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios-xml/ios/iproute_bgp/configuration/15-s/irg-15-s-book/irg-origin-as.pdf__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!EB5iIYDDpnRMSM7Gjvy11sMoEsjEDlXtTpfipi4l735bx04IY-dD73vWGCbiDZvoRR6kTse35whqa8dH1cN_Ya9j$>
>
> *From: *NANOG <nanog-bounces+rich_compton=comcast.com () nanog org> on
> behalf of Mohammad Khalil <eng.mssk () gmail com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 10:35 AM
> *To: *NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
> *Subject: *SOVC - BGp RPKI
>
> Greetings Am have tried to find out what is the abbreviation for SOVC
> with no luck. #sh bgp ipv4 unicast rpki servers  BGP SOVC neighbor is
> X. X. X. 47/323 connected to port 323 Anyone have encountered this?
> Thanks! ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
>
> Greetings
>
> Am have tried to find out what is the abbreviation for SOVC with no luck.
>
> #sh bgp ipv4 unicast rpki servers
>
> BGP SOVC neighbor is X.X.X.47/323 connected to port 323
>
> Anyone have encountered this?
>
> Thanks!