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Re: transit and peering costs projections


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 08:38:21 -0500 (CDT)

I've seen some attempts to put an IX at every corner, but I don't think those efforts will be overly successful. 

It's still difficult to gain sufficient scale in NFL-sized cities. Big content won't join without big eyeballs (well, 
not the national-level guys because they almost never will). Big eyeballs just can't be bothered. Small guys don't move 
the needle enough. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht () gmail com> 
To: "Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!" <nnagain () lists bufferbloat net>, 
"libreqos" <libreqos () lists bufferbloat net>, "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2023 6:01:54 PM 
Subject: transit and peering costs projections 

This set of trendlines was very interesting. Unfortunately the data 
stops in 2015. Does anyone have more recent data? 

https://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Transit-Pricing-Historical-And-Projected.php 

I believe a gbit circuit that an ISP can resell still runs at about 
$900 - $1.4k (?) in the usa? How about elsewhere? 

... 

I am under the impression that many IXPs remain very successful, 
states without them suffer, and I also find the concept of doing micro 
IXPs at the city level, appealing, and now achievable with cheap gear. 
Finer grained cross connects between telco and ISP and IXP would lower 
latencies across town quite hugely... 

PS I hear ARIN is planning on dropping the price for, and bundling 3 
BGP AS numbers at a time, as of the end of this year, also. 



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Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos 


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