Re: Generally accepted BGP acceptance criteria?

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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Midwest-IX 
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Tom Samplonius" <tom () samplonius org> 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 6:54:17 PM 
Subject: Generally accepted BGP acceptance criteria? 


In the world of IRR and RPKI, BGP route acceptance criteria is important to get right. 

DE-CIX has published a detailed flow chart documenting their acceptance criteria: 
https://www.de-cix.net/en/locations/frankfurt/route-server-guide 

But I don’t see a lot of operators publishing their criteria. I imagine there is a some sort of coalescing industry 
standard out there, but so far I can’t find it. Of the upstreams I use, just one publishes a flowchart. Another is 
basically refusing to explain anything other than they “use” IRR and RPKI, ad that RPKI is “good”. 

I assumed that everyone implementing RPKI validation, would skip IRR route object validation if the route is 
RPKI-valid. I assumed that everyone is doing this now, or would do this when they implement RPKI validation. But I 
spoke to an operator today, which still expects all routes to pass IRR as well (and while they perform RPKI-validation, 
they effectively do nothing with the result). To me, this seems like a different direction than most operators are 
going. Or is it? 

The most surprising thing in the DE-DIX flow chart, was that they check that the origin AS exists in the IRR as-set, 
before doing RPKI, and if the set existence fails, they reject the route. I don’t see a problem with this, as 
maintaining as-sets is easy, but it does prevent an eventual 100% RPKI future with no IRR at all. 

I also thought there may be an informational RFC on this, but I couldn’t find anything. Has there been anything 
published or any presentations given, on generally accepted BGP route acceptance criteria? 


Tom